GoBills808 Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: No, I'm not entirely. It is an overthrow, but it's also a ball Jones probably could have gotten to and caught with a little more effort. But you're missing the context of the discussion. I'm responding to Shady, who already seems to forget why the whole conversation started since he's responding to your comment here already forgetting about why we started talking about the pass in the first place. He's using that throw in the context of his "uncatchable passes" argument. And he directly reference a pass that I think was catchable, despite being an overthrow. But it's Shady, so it's not unexpected. If he’s throwing to Antonio Brown it might be catchable. If that’s Roethlisberger throwing the ball it might be a completion. Sadly, it’s Tyrod Taylor throwing to Zay Jones. 2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I believe what he said. With the right scheme I feel Taylor can flourish, his ability to turn something into nothing is largely overlooked. Those 10 yard 3rd down runs for a 1st, versus a regular QB taking a sack is a huge margin. His record this year is super impressive. Most on here and the national media had us as a 5-7 win team, he's 21-19 as a starter, under that BRUTAL Rex Ryan defense. what is Winston, Mariota and Carr's win loss record? While people on here obsess over 300 yards games, I'm looking at that W-L record, it's all that matters. He's been a winner with below average-average talent, surround him with better quality and he'll win more.. W/L is not a QB stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I believe what he said. With the right scheme I feel Taylor can flourish, his ability to turn something into nothing is largely overlooked. Those 10 yard 3rd down runs for a 1st, versus a regular QB taking a sack is a huge margin. His record this year is super impressive. Most on here and the national media had us as a 5-7 win team, he's 21-19 as a starter, under that BRUTAL Rex Ryan defense. what is Winston, Mariota and Carr's win loss record? While people on here obsess over 300 yards games, I'm looking at that W-L record, it's all that matters. He's been a winner with below average-average talent, surround him with better quality and he'll win more.. Yes, 21-19 is most impressive. Just a shade above .500. But please continue to believe that the problem is the talent around him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, JPP said: Maybe im wrong but i think it kinda looked like Anthony Lynn's playbook in the first half and dennision dumped it and used his in the second half......our blocking on the oline was good in the first and shady ran like crazy....moreso outside blocking than the dennison crap..... In Chargers land Anthony Lynn trashed his playbook and let Rivers play QB. ONCE that was done the Chargers started winning. \ I thought W/L was a team result? So confusing. /sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: In Chargers land Anthony Lynn trashed his playbook and let Rivers play QB. ONCE that was done the Chargers started winning. \ I thought W/L was a team result? So confusing. /sarcasm nope it looked completely dejavu for me at least....they pretty much shut down the offence in the second half (compared to the 1st).....thats the problem with this coaching...get a 1.5 or 2 possession lead and they completely play out the clock....this will not work this sunday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) TT is 2-12 (I believe) when having to attempt 30 or more passes in a game. This record is scary, and doesn’t give me much confidence is his ability to win games when we need him to. I’m passing on him for next year. Edited December 20, 2017 by Playoffs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 38 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: No, I'm not entirely. It is an overthrow, but it's also a ball Jones probably could have gotten to and caught with a little more effort. But you're missing the context of the discussion. I'm responding to Shady, who already seems to forget why the whole conversation started since he's responding to your comment here already forgetting about why we started talking about the pass in the first place. He's using that throw in the context of his "uncatchable passes" argument. And he directly reference a pass that I think was catchable, despite being an overthrow. But it's Shady, so it's not unexpected. Yes you are, your track record says otherwise or you wouldn't even say this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: I don't know what you're trying to prove... That Taylor doesn't spread the ball around? He completed a pass to 8 different players in the game on Sunday. As for what the play by play recap says... use your eyes... could Zay Jones have gotten to and caught that ball? That thing in his hands is the ball ........ he just needed to hang on to it. Anyone who calls it an overthrow clearly didn't watch the game. Edited December 20, 2017 by Maine-iac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Why are you people using the non catch video and ignoring the other play where the ball was actually uncatchable??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 25 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said: Yes you are, your track record says otherwise or you wouldn't even say this. Oh look, you and xRushx must be buddies. Tell me more about what I think, please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: That thing in his hands is the ball ........ he just needed to hang on to it. Isn’t that a different play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, transplantbillsfan said: Oh look, you and xRushx must be buddies. Tell me more about what I think, please Speaking of buddies. Where is jm2009 and his aganda talk? 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Isn’t that a different play? Shhh. We don’t want to cloud their reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 As for the adding my 2 cents to the post. I'd definitely draft a QB if there's one there early. Don't waste a first round pick on the 3rd or 4th best guy though. Either make some moves and take a consensus good pick or build the team with play makers and defense. I'm all for adding a good QB. I'd rather play Taylor and Peterman with an explosive reciever and a better line next year than trade 2 firsts for a middle of the road prospect though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Why are you people using the non catch video and ignoring the other play where the ball was actually uncatchable??? Ummm... what? The twitter clip I posted for you is one of Tyrod's targets to Jones. The one Jones dropped is the other. You said there are 2, right? 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Isn’t that a different play? Yes, it is... and it's a different play from the All-22 clip I posted that Shady doesn't even sound like he looked at, despite the fact that it's the one he's talking about But again... it's Shady... I'm starting to just play a goofy sitcom-type little theme in my head every time I read a post from him, at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Isn’t that a different play? You are right ......... my bad. It's blocking the twitter in the forums on my browser so I had to go to Cover 1's page to find out I screwed that up. Carry on nothing to see here :). 5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Ummm... what? The twitter clip I posted for you is one of Tyrod's targets to Jones. The one Jones dropped is the other. You said there are 2, right? Yes, it is... and it's a different play from the All-22 clip I posted that Shady doesn't even sound like he looked at, despite the fact that it's the one he's talking about But again... it's Shady... I'm starting to just play a goofy sitcom-type little theme in my head every time I read a post from him, at this point. The one I got wrong Taylor was essentially throwing away. There wasn't anything else he could do on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: It's close. And I'm not saying it was an easy catch. But better tracking and/or laying out a little I think Jones could have caught that. Of course that would have just involved getting the ball to touch his hands... the next problem would be those stone hands of his... which we all know how to fix... I don't see how Jones could have really tracked that ball much better. It looked to me that he was running full speed the entire route, and I thought he did lay out trying to catch it (watch him stretch and fall trying to catch the ball). I really don't see much else Zay could have done on that one. I guess you could maaybbee say that he paused for like a millisecond when turning to look for the ball. But I have a hard time saying that was a catchable ball by Tyrod (and you know I'm not a Tyrod hater). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 The one thing I will say if Zay knows he's covered in man coverage the DB basically ran the route for him and then they send the RB right into the same area. There are only two WR's out and one RB and 5 guys covering. The whole play looks doomed all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 58 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Isn’t that a different play? Yes. And I think the point Transplant is attempting to make is that an overthrow isn't necessarily uncatchable (like 10 yards OoB or 15 yards downfield). It was overthrown, but potentially within reach (if we still had Sammy ) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ndirish1978 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Hands down the worst receiving corps the Bills have fielded in a full season since they joined the NFL. Deonte Thompson has probably been their best WR this season........a mid-season waiver wire add.........that's like Travaris Cadet being your leading rusher. Zay Jones ineffectiveness is reaching historic proportions with each pass that he dro....I mean gets defensed..........and he's the most targeted receiver on the team. As I said......like it or not, Taylor's numbers with Watkins and Woods healthy in Buffalo spoke for themselves. I could argue with jackasses and fools like you all day on TSW but I just occasionally stop in to call out the bullsh*t when people like Kirby or Bandit aren't already there pointing it out. Thanks bro, it's a privilege having someone of your incredible humility and self-awareness interact with me on a faceless message board, you're a real cool guy and I'm happy you're such a positive influence on this community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: Oh look, you and xRushx must be buddies. Tell me more about what I think, please No need, you know you're full of yourself as does everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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