26CornerBlitz Posted December 19, 2017 Author Posted December 19, 2017 Just now, NoSaint said: But what was the incident? Just one incident? You get what I’m asking. Fined for helmet to helmet hits in the past. I know specifically of one earlier this season.
apuszczalowski Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 5 hours ago, CSBill said: How was this worse what Gronk did to Tre' White? As a matter of fact, I see what Gronk willfully and intentionally did as borderline criminal. And yet he only gets one game. It is the inconsistency that is so hard to understand. The NFL can't allow one of its big name players to be out of "the game of the year", the networks would be livid and the league would lose out so they suspend him for one game. I'm a little more lenient on hits like that during play then cheap shots taken after a play is over and were deliberate intent to injure. Even more so when it's from someone who is basically expressing roid rage and explains it away as him just being mad he wasn't getting his way with the officials.
NoSaint Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Thank You Joe Thomas! I do generally agree with the sentiment but think you have to look at the totality. He wasn’t suspended 2 games for a single hit. He was suspended 2 games for a series of hits, with this being the most recent. That’s why I’m pressing a bit on the history.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 19, 2017 Author Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: I do generally agree with the sentiment but think you have to look at the totality. He wasn’t suspended 2 games for a single hit. He was suspended 2 games for a series of hits, with this being the most recent. That’s why I’m pressing a bit on the history. Football play albeit an illegal block vs. an after the whistle deliberate action that received less initial punishment. There's something wrong here.
NoSaint Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Football play albeit an illegal block vs. an after the whistle deliberate action that received less initial punishment. There's something wrong here. At a very simplified glance, yes. would a late slap be worse than a dozen occurrences of the Davis hit? Obviously no. so I think we agree both severity and frequency of transgression matters. Based on the short outline it looks like in a vacuum Gronk gets suspended and Davis gets a fine. But Davis being a repeat offender comes with escalators. Less outrageous depending on the details of the resume.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 19, 2017 Author Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, NoSaint said: At a very simplified glance, yes. would a late slap be worse than a dozen occurrences of the Davis hit? Obviously no. so I think we agree both severity and frequency of transgression matters. Based on the short outline it looks like in a vacuum Gronk gets suspended and Davis gets a fine. But Davis being a repeat offender comes with escalators. Less outrageous depending on the details of the resume. Two different categories to me when there's an after the whistle hit on a defenseless player who's on the ground and he takes an deliberate elbow to the head. No comparison. Edited December 19, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz
YoloinOhio Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) I understand that TD was suspended 2 games instead of 1 for being a repeat offender. For the hit that occurred in the field of play. That does not mean gronk should only have gotten 1 because he wasn’t a repeat offender. As the hits weren’t remotely the same. The league indicated after that they would look into creating a separate category for “non-football” illegal hits with their own set of punishments. That’s the right call. Too late, but the right call Edited December 19, 2017 by YoloinOhio
LABILLBACKER Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Sweats said: And Gronk only gets one game for hitting a defenceless player on the sidelines causing a concussion?...............who in the hell is making these rules? Actually that would be Bob Kraft head of the rules committee. Do you see a pattern here. Not to mention conflict of interest.
Manther Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Actually that would be Bob Kraft head of the rules committee. Do you see a pattern here. Not to mention conflict of interest. That seems like a a silly comment. Kraft is on the rules committee. He doesn't hand down the punishments or review suspensions mid season. I was going to write more, but, you get my point.
Scott7975 Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Commonsense said: I guess it's all about who's viewing it. The Davis hit came during an actual play, so although a cheap shot in its own right I discount it a bit compared to another guy who disregards a whistle and intentionally slams everything he has on an unsuspecting player. That old saying "keep your head on a swivel" could apply to Adams on that play. Tre didn't even have that chance. Maybe it's my Patriots bias but the Gronk hit infuriates me. The Davis hit was more like a "what the hell" moment and it looked like he felt the same way on the sideline. Thats twice that Adams got a cheap shot, is he disliked for something? Seems like a quiet guy. I agree with your first part. After the whistle stuff to me was a worse action. I just think the other hit itself was more vicious. Mostly he got two games because he is a repeat offender.
papazoid Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 4:44 PM, papazoid said: 2 games because repeat offender don't be shocked if reduced to 1 game on appeal Panthers LB Thomas Davis wins appeal, suspension cut to one game http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21820111/carolina-panthers-lb-thomas-davis-suspension-reduced-1-game
26CornerBlitz Posted December 21, 2017 Author Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) Edited December 21, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz
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