26CornerBlitz Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 A Reddit user made this flowchart to help explain what a catch is before the Steelers-Patriots game on Sunday. 1
boyst Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 46 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: They won't, I personally expect the Jags be the AFCCG game with the Pats. as for Eli, he wants stay on his New HC good side. (Rumor is McDaniels is going get the Giants Job) I expect the pats to be there, as well. But hope they won't. I hope Tom Brady gets hit by a bus and can't walk again, living his life a parallelogram.
cd1 Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 On 12/17/2017 at 7:21 PM, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: only the patsies** could win a game like that. THIS is why GOAT and Patriots is a !@#$ing farce!
Real McClappy Posted December 19, 2017 Author Posted December 19, 2017 (edited) This is actually a pretty well made flow chart except for incorrect symbols. . Was the highlighted box conclusive to overturn a play called TD? Still trying to understand how this was not overturned? Edited December 19, 2017 by Real McCoy
Success Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 1 hour ago, PatsFanNH said: Umm the Rams game was all regards spygate which was about defense signals. Othing do with O. And if your talking about that damn Boston Globe article which was retracted a week later as lies then wel ok.. ? eli had coughlin.. without him he and the Giants get smoked. The Patriots never smoked anyone in a Super Bowl.
PatsFanNH Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 37 minutes ago, Success said: The Patriots never smoked anyone in a Super Bowl. Read what I said, I said Eli without Coighlin would get smoked. As in the reason they won was because of coughlin.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 50 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Still trying to understand how this was not overturned? pretty evident considering the team.
PatsFanNH Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: pretty evident considering the team. (Act like everyone here) well I don't see the ball touching the ground it is clearly on his arm ?. But seriously that shows me nothing did he regain complete control before hitting the ground?
Real McClappy Posted December 19, 2017 Author Posted December 19, 2017 36 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: (Act like everyone here) well I don't see the ball touching the ground it is clearly on his arm ?. But seriously that shows me nothing did he regain complete control before hitting the ground? Watch the video Rolls up his stomach after clearly hitting the ground with no hand under the ball. That is by the NFL rule not a catch. https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/STm-jMucxR4ChmzZTF3TC0CG8nE=/0x0:530x298/720x0/filters:focal(0x0:530x298):gifv():no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9325645/cookstd.0.gif 1
NoSaint Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 4 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: The crux of the matter is: what is a catch? Does anyone really know? I'm sure the NFL has defined it, but the definition appears to be hazy, or fluid at least. This needs to be made more clear, and possibly simplified. Id honestly say they made it very clear, but fans (and some players, coaches etc..) don’t like it and are arguing it should be hazier
PatsFanNH Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Watch the video Rolls up his stomach after clearly hitting the ground with no hand under the ball. That is by the NFL rule not a catch. https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/STm-jMucxR4ChmzZTF3TC0CG8nE=/0x0:530x298/720x0/filters:focal(0x0:530x298):gifv():no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9325645/cookstd.0.gif If I remember right he has to also "fail to maintain control" I could be wrong.. but this one you can not tell if he maintain control or not from this angle. Like I have said before they easily could have ruled it incomplete. All depends on the refs you get and the angles they have for the catch.
NoSaint Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 4 hours ago, apuszczalowski said: How is it a made up standard? Almost Every time there is a replay on tv the always talk about how the refs have to have conclusive evidence in the replay in order to overturn a call made on the field. You can't say without any possible doubts that the ball is loose and on the ground from any angle or photo available right now. That's the problem with the call “Has to be seen” and “conclusive” aren’t the same thing. we can conclude plenty of things through various deductions without seeing. And I also feel like I see it. Agree to disagree at this point
Success Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 I will truly cherish the day when the football world isn’t consumed with everything the patriots do and games/calls like this past Sunday get zero attention.
PatsFanNH Posted December 19, 2017 Posted December 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Success said: I will truly cherish the day when the football world isn’t consumed with everything the patriots do and games/calls like this past Sunday get zero attention. Well the GAME deserved the attention it was a great game no matter what laundry they were wearing both teams put in a hell of a show! And as for calls like that, I love the fact most can discuss it rationally without getting their underwear in a bunch. It's a good thing!
4merper4mer Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 8 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: (Act like everyone here) well I don't see the ball touching the ground it is clearly on his arm ?. But seriously that shows me nothing did he regain complete control before hitting the ground? The James play and the Cooks play are nearly identical. If you put a gun to my head I'd probably say both were bobbles and the ground assisted with the catch. But the replay from neither showed irrefutable evidence. Both plays should have stood. If you're going to reverse one, you have to reverse the the other.
Turk71 Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 The problem for me with the rule as it is, the end zone should be different imo. The instant you establish two feet down and break the plane with the ball in your possession it should b a Td, play over. The same for a catch in the endzone. Two feet down with clear possession in the end zone should be a Td.
keepthefaith Posted December 20, 2017 Posted December 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Turk71 said: The problem for me with the rule as it is, the end zone should be different imo. The instant you establish two feet down and break the plane with the ball in your possession it should b a Td, play over. The same for a catch in the endzone. Two feet down with clear possession in the end zone should be a Td. Agree. It seems like there are 3 sets of catch rules. One for the end zone, one for the sideline and one for within the field of play. This may not be true but when you watch how games are officiated, it appears there are 3 different interpretations of what is/isn't a catch.
ricko1112 Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 On 12/18/2017 at 3:00 PM, Happy Gilmore said: Not making anything up, ricko. Look at the gif of the catch below and tell me you can for certain say the ball hit the ground. Looks to me that James had possession of it during the entire process. As far as your Gronk scenario, not applicable. It would probably not be questioned, or if it was, never overturned. It's very clear that he lost total control. The Earth is a sphere, gravity is real, and man landed on the Moon. Don't deny the obvious. If it was Gronk in this position, he would have gotten flagged for OPI. Sunday will go a long way to determine how the new culture of the Bills is progressing. With Rex, the defense would absolutely sabotage the playoffs for a chance to deliberately injure Gronk. On a different note, good luck against Miami. I really mean that. The Bills' fans are more passionate and loyal. You expect so much more from your team. On 12/18/2017 at 9:23 PM, apuszczalowski said: So what your saying is you have no evidence showing the ball actually touching the ground? Unless you are Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder, it's pretty obvious that the ball was on the ground. Watch the video and let the obvious truth set you free! The only people who don't see this are those that don't want to because they are blinded by jealousy! In all seriousness, good luck against Miami! It would be great to have you guys back in the playoffs.
Happy Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, ricko1112 said: It's very clear that he lost total control. The Earth is a sphere, gravity is real, and man landed on the Moon. Don't deny the obvious. If it was Gronk in this position, he would have gotten flagged for OPI. Sunday will go a long way to determine how the new culture of the Bills is progressing. With Rex, the defense would absolutely sabotage the playoffs for a chance to deliberately injure Gronk. On a different note, good luck against Miami. I really mean that. The Bills' fans are more passionate and loyal. You expect so much more from your team. Fine, have it your way, I'm tired of talking about it. Enjoy yet another ill-gotten win. Gronk, flagged for OPI?! Puleez...not a chance. Mad Cow infected Meathead shouldn't have even been playing last Sunday if there was actual justice in the NFL. We control our own destiny at this point, just have to win out.
ricko1112 Posted December 21, 2017 Posted December 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Fine, have it your way, I'm tired of talking about it. Enjoy yet another ill-gotten win. Gronk, flagged for OPI?! Puleez...not a chance. Mad Cow infected Meathead shouldn't have even been playing last Sunday if there was actual justice in the NFL. We control our own destiny at this point, just have to win out. The 1st ill-gotten will be the first. You won't win out, but the win against Miami will still give you a chance, no? Merry Christmas bud!
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