Freddie's Dead Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 49 minutes ago, joesixpack said: You literally can NOT say that. You can't predict how the clock would have played out after that sans a timeout. Dude, come on. You agreed with me in the game thread. Et tu, Sixe'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, Freddie's Dead said: You agreed with me in the game thread. Et tu, Sixe'? No, you misread me. Go back and have a look. I was calling YOUR decision to call that move stupid well, stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: You must not have been in the gameday thread. I wanted a FG on 4th and 1 from the 1. Because you ALWAYS take the points. 100% of the time. Also thought a punt was the right call on the long attempt to Clay. On both plays the FG was the right choice. I understand the call from the one. The call from the 36 was terrible. Just terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Groy’s scouting report coming out of college included his taking of timely penalties. Just kidding. I didn’t see this game, took my son to see Star Wars instead. With the reactions around here you’d have thought we lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Kelly the Dog said: On both plays the FG was the right choice. I understand the call from the one. The call from the 36 was terrible. Just terrible. I can understand the one from the 36. Maybe. But the one? That should have been auto-kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: On both plays the FG was the right choice. I understand the call from the one. The call from the 36 was terrible. Just terrible. The 4th and 7 call wasn't that bad in my opinion. Tough kicking conditions in the cold and if he misses it, you give it to Miami at the 40. I'm usually hard on mcd but not blaming him for that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Washington is a jerk for taking that bad penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, nucci said: So it wasn't just one thing? Is it ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, billsfan11 said: The 4th and 7 call wasn't that bad in my opinion. Tough kicking conditions in the cold and if he misses it, you give it to Miami at the 40. I'm usually hard on mcd but not blaming him for that one He's made 12 of the last 13 over 50. The BALL is not cold, they keep them warm. 53 is easily in his range. If over 55 then maybe there is an argument. But there is zero reason to not kick it from 53 there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: He's made 12 of the last 13 over 50. The BALL is not cold, they keep them warm. 53 is easily in his range. If over 55 then maybe there is an argument. But there is zero reason to not kick it from 53 there. I understand your points but I still think it's a 50/50 call in my opinion under the circumstances. The last thing you want to do is give Miami great field position when you are up 2 scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I understand your points but I still think it's a 50/50 call in my opinion under the circumstances. The last thing you want to do is give Miami great field position when you are up 2 scores It's fourth and seven. How are the seven yards for the FG different? There is much better chance of making 53 yard FG with Hauschka than 4th and 7 on offense. Clearly awful call. And also showed by what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 35 minutes ago, Doc said: They would have been down 15. They ended up getting just 10 of those. Down by 15 is 2 scores, down by 18 is 3 scores. It would have completely changed the Dolphins' last real drive because they would have been 8 down, not 11. That's why I'm grateful for Groy's false start 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, GG said: Down by 15 is 2 scores, down by 18 is 3 scores. It would have completely changed the Dolphins' last real drive because they would have been 8 down, not 11. That's why I'm grateful for Groy's false start Yup. It helped a lot. Quite a few questionable coaching decisions in last quarter. Thankfully we were playing Cutler. He's got a great arm and will make plays but a coach killer more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, GG said: Down by 15 is 2 scores, down by 18 is 3 scores. It would have completely changed the Dolphins' last real drive because they would have been 8 down, not 11. That's why I'm grateful for Groy's false start I am as well. But the only thing it changes on their last drive is going for it on 4th and 14. No way to know a) if they get it and b) if they get the 2 PC. And that still just ties the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 51 minutes ago, RiotAct said: Well, so far it hasn’t come back to bite him, which is good. Just the fact we are playing truly meaningful Football going into week 16 alone has me happy with McD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: It's fourth and seven. How are the seven yards for the FG different? There is much better chance of making 53 yard FG with Hauschka than 4th and 7 on offense. Clearly awful call. And also showed by what happened. House money kicked a 56 yard field goal against ATL when they were up by 3 with a few minutes left. So it's not like mcd doesn't trust Hauschka for long attempts in key situations He obviously didn't like the odds of hauschka making that field goal today or else he would have sent him out there for sure. Had to be the elements Im very hard on mcds decisions but I have no problem with him going for that Edited December 17, 2017 by billsfan11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, billsfan11 said: House money kicked a 56 yard field goal against ATL when they were up by 3 with a few minutes left. So it's not like mcd doesn't trust Hauschka for long attempts in key situations He obviously didn't like the odds of hauschka making that field goal today or else he would have sent him out there for sure. Had to be the elements Im very hard on mcds decisions but I have no problem with him going for that Yeah, but that was in a dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, billsfan11 said: House money kicked a 56 yard field goal against ATL when they were up by 3 with a few minutes left. So it's not like mcd doesn't trust Hauschka for long attempts in key situations He obviously didn't like the odds of hauschka making that field goal today or else he would have sent him out there for sure. Im very hard on mcds decisions but I have no problem with him going for that So you're saying that in an earlier similar situation the coach makes the decision to kick it and the guy kicks it at 56 and it works. So then he has a shorter kick at 53 and he decides AGAINST the kick and it doesn't work and you support that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, Doc said: Yeah, but that was in a dome. That's partially my point. The kicking conditions today were probably tougher than they looked Just now, Kelly the Dog said: So you're saying that in an earlier similar situation the coach makes the decision to kick it and the guy kicks it at 56 and it works. So then he has a shorter kick at 53 and he decides AGAINST the kick and it doesn't work and you support that? Yes. Dome vs. 25 degrees with wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, billsfan11 said: That's partially my point. The kicking conditions today were probably tougher than they looked Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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