BillsFan17 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 On 12/16/2017 at 10:22 AM, PromoTheRobot said: I was about to say something similar. Why pour millions into a dump you're ready to move out of? Sign of good faith to their fans? Kind of a thank you for having invested all these years and please be patient as we build a new facility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Anybody remember when Terry Pegula said he wanted the team to be good before he started to ask for money for a stadium? The team isn't good so probably he won't be starting to move ahead with a stadium until they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Anybody remember when Terry Pegula said he wanted the team to be good before he started to ask for money for a stadium? The team isn't good so probably he won't be starting to move ahead with a stadium until they are. Lol, how this for a conspiracy? Goodell makes sure the Bills get favorable calls so they win more games when they need to get public money for a new stadium! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: That story applies to municipalities bending over to pay fully for stadiums. It doesn't discuss partnerships where the team owner pays the lion's share. If you've been down to Canalside, then you know how much that development is being driven by the Pegulas, and the city is reaping the benefit. If the city, county and state are smart, they invest to keep that momentum going. Government-smart. What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagon127 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I feel like we are still at least 6 years away from a new stadium being ready to play in. Even the Aud saw some renovations in its final years before they closed it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 11 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I hope so. I love going to games at the Ralph. I like that its not all Hollywood like new stadiums. And a new stadium means the price of football goes up significantly. We don't need no stinkin' new stadium. Nine out of every ten local people that I speak to about this feels the exact same way. Including my teenage nephews and college age interns. Preserve the old-school vibe but add modern touches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Hammered a Lot said: Government-smart. What? It has happened occasionally. How do you think we ended up with roads, the power grid, airports, etc? They don't sprout on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 (edited) Quick research I did shows that Buffalo 93.4 inches has about twice the average snowfall of Minneapolis 55 inches. The record snowfall for one continuous storm is 28.4 inches over 4 days in Minneapolis. In Buffalo it was 88 inches over 5 days in 2014. That is seven feet of snow. Which is why I think my low tech low cost idea is a good one to consider. Which nobody will We put a metal framework up there that stays there year round. You put your lights and a spot for cameras or whatever else you want up there. Then you have sections of fabric over that metal framework. Like a big top tent. You can project ads on the roof from inside or outside I suppose, to help pay for it. Then, you actually furl the fabric roof up, like you do with as sail on a mast when you don't want to use it, whenever a bunch of snow is coming. Pretty much leave the roof off (furled) for the whole winter if you want. Most of us like outdoor football anyway. And you don't have to build a roof that will support 7 feet of snow which will cost a gazillion dollars. But you can have protection from the rain etc for 3 seasons of the year as you wish. Edited March 31, 2018 by BadLandsMeanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Quick research I did shows that Buffalo 93.4 inches has about twice the average snowfall of Minneapolis 55 inches. The record snowfall for one continuous storm is 28.4 inches over 4 days in Minneapolis. In Buffalo it was 88 inches over 5 days in 2014. That is seven feet of snow. Which is why I think my low tech low cost idea is a good one to consider. Which nobody will We put a metal framework up there that stays there year round. You put your lights and a spot for cameras or whatever else you want up there. Then you have sections of fabric over that metal framework. Like a big top tent. You can project ads on the roof from inside or outside I suppose, to help pay for it. Then, you actually furl the fabric roof up, like you do with as sail on a mast when you don't want to use it, whenever a bunch of snow is coming. Pretty much leave the roof off (furled) for the whole winter if you want. Most of us like outdoor football anyway. And you don't have to build a roof that will support 7 feet of snow which will cost a gazillion dollars. But you can have protection from the rain etc for 3 seasons of the year as you wish. Orchard Park averages much more than the airport where snowfall is measured at. I'd say Orchard Park averages 120-130" of snow a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 On 12/16/2017 at 7:22 AM, PromoTheRobot said: I was about to say something similar. Why pour millions into a dump you're ready to move out of? because you have enough class not to live in a dump for the next 4 yrs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Awwufelloff said: Orchard Park averages much more than the airport where snowfall is measured at. I'd say Orchard Park averages 120-130" of snow a year. holy cow! Thanks Awwufell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 5 hours ago, Awwufelloff said: Orchard Park averages much more than the airport where snowfall is measured at. I'd say Orchard Park averages 120-130" of snow a year. Wow. That's a lot. And your wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 O.P. Annual snowfall avg is 114 in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 9 hours ago, Tcali said: because you have enough class not to live in a dump for the next 4 yrs? Who ever said the Bills were moving to New Hampshire, the dump state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Hammered a Lot said: Wow. That's a lot. And your wrong Is it? I do Meteorology part time. It's a huge passion of mine. Here is the data, check for yourself. I am a spotter here in Hamburg and we've received 142.4" of snow so far this year. The Airport averages around 95" of snow per year. West Seneca is around 110" per year, OP and Hamburg around 120-130" per year. Boston/Colden are 160-200" per year, Perrysburg is snow capital of WNY and averages 200-250" per year. Here is my Youtube Channel with some of my chases and a slideshow I put together from Nov 2014 where I received 88.6" of snow from that storm from Nov 17-20th, 2014. https://www.cocorahs.org/ViewData/ Edited April 1, 2018 by Awwufelloff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 25 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: Is it? I do Meteorology part time. It's a huge passion of mine. Here is the data, check for yourself. I am a spotter here in Hamburg and we've received 142.4" of snow so far this year. The Airport averages around 95" of snow per year. West Seneca is around 110" per year, OP and Hamburg around 120-130" per year. Boston/Colden are 160-200" per year, Perrysburg is snow capital of WNY and averages 200-250" per year. Here is my Youtube Channel with some of my chases and a slideshow I put together from Nov 2014 where I received 88.6" of snow from that storm from Nov 17-20th, 2014. https://www.cocorahs.org/ViewData/ Cool **** but I personally would like to never think about that storm and several others again lol. I had a trip to Aruba planned and didn't think we were going until the day before departure cause of this storm. Sump pumps working? Check. Etc.. That storm wore my ass out keeping the path to the furnace vent clear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awwufelloff Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 9 hours ago, beerme1 said: Cool **** but I personally would like to never think about that storm and several others again lol. I had a trip to Aruba planned and didn't think we were going until the day before departure cause of this storm. Sump pumps working? Check. Etc.. That storm wore my ass out keeping the path to the furnace vent clear. I didn't think it was possible to get a storm like that. The amount of snow that fell in that short of a time period is something I doubt we see again in our lifetime. I measured 8" in one hour at one point during that storm. Crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Awwufelloff said: I didn't think it was possible to get a storm like that. The amount of snow that fell in that short of a time period is something I doubt we see again in our lifetime. I measured 8" in one hour at one point during that storm. Crazy! The clear solution from your radar graphics is to build a land bridge from the U.S. side of Lake Erie over to Point Abino to act as a snow fence (like the ice boom, in a way) so WNY wouldn't get dumped on as much!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 4/1/2018 at 1:10 PM, Lurker said: The clear solution from your radar graphics is to build a land bridge from the U.S. side of Lake Erie over to Point Abino to act as a snow fence (like the ice boom, in a way) so WNY wouldn't get dumped on as much!! Went to Point Abino lighthouse on a science trip in high school on weather. Evidently science teacher had a friend who worked there. It has been open to tours for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 4/1/2018 at 3:07 AM, beerme1 said: Cool **** but I personally would like to never think about that storm and several others again lol. I had a trip to Aruba planned and didn't think we were going until the day before departure cause of this storm. Sump pumps working? Check. Etc.. That storm wore my ass out keeping the path to the furnace vent clear. ....wait....Dunkirk Don's new dome solves everything....stay tuned................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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