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  On 12/27/2017 at 10:42 PM, RevWarRifleman said:

Renovate again? They just got done. This stadium has had more face lifts than Joan Rivers!

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It is a waste of money but we're still likely 10 years away from the opening of a new stadium. I almost expect UB to take over New Era after the Bills leave. Hopefully UB can build up the football program similar to the basketball program. 

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  On 3/29/2018 at 4:56 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

No, but it's a statistical fact the Southtowns get far more snow that the city or other suburbs. 

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Sure but people still need to drive wherever stadium is and when Southtowns get that much snow roads are bad in whole area usually.

 

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NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said Wednesday he believes the Buffalo Bills are in the “very early stage” of planning to extensively renovate or replace New Era Field, the team’s home field since 1973.

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Roger even used the revovate word. 

 

The key issue IMO is transportation. Add an express lane for buses, etc to key parts outside of area and that can help with transportation issues.  The bones of the stadium are good but the entire field should be replaced, heating elements added field made more impact friendly.

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  On 12/16/2017 at 10:42 PM, Buffalo716 said:

Just in

 

I was just guaranteed from my source Buffalo Billy that the Bills WILL play 16 games next year

 

yes you heard it here first. They will in fact be playing 16 games next year 

 

AND we will be wearing red white and blue

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But Red Helmets??

 

I Prefer Blue

 

 

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  On 3/29/2018 at 7:04 PM, TheTruthHurts said:

It is a waste of money but we're still likely 10 years away from the opening of a new stadium. I almost expect UB to take over New Era after the Bills leave. Hopefully UB can build up the football program similar to the basketball program. 

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Speaking of ub, if they build up the football program could be interesting partners in building a new stadium downtown. 

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  On 3/29/2018 at 7:04 PM, TheTruthHurts said:

It is a waste of money but we're still likely 10 years away from the opening of a new stadium. I almost expect UB to take over New Era after the Bills leave. Hopefully UB can build up the football program similar to the basketball program. 

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Why would UB take over a stadium that's on the other side of town when they have their own stadium? I do agree that UB football would be a great addition to a new downtown covered stadium.

  On 3/29/2018 at 7:08 PM, Limeaid said:

 

Sure but people still need to drive wherever stadium is and when Southtowns get that much snow roads are bad in whole area usually.

 

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I forgot what the point was. That we can't build a dome/roofed stadium because it snows?

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the ralph is perfectly fine

 

by the time the Pegula's are done slow playing a new stadium.....opening day will be closer to 2030 than 2022

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  On 3/30/2018 at 12:10 AM, boater said:

Maybe they plan on staying in the "dump"

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Could be. UB got burned last time they played at (what was) RWS. They got hit with an unexpected $100K for snow removal. That's what keeps them from playing there more. Too bad. That Bowling Green game was the largest UB crowd for an October or November game, 4th largest ever. 26K+.

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  On 3/30/2018 at 12:10 AM, boater said:

Maybe they plan on staying in the "dump"

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I hope so.

 

I love going to games at the Ralph. I like that its not all Hollywood like new stadiums.

 

And a new stadium means the price of football goes up significantly.

 

We don't need no stinkin' new stadium.

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  On 3/29/2018 at 5:08 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

So yes, Joe Taxpayer picks up part of the tab. But the other side of the equation is how much return on investment there is. 

 

Governments factor that in. If they spend $100 million in infrastructure but earn $300 million in economic benefits over the life of that investment, then it pretty much is worth doing, no? 

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The evidence shows that governments have ignored the financial realities.

 

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Indeed, there is little evidence that stadiums provide even local economic benefits. Decades of academic studies consistently find no discernible positive relationship between sports facilities and local economic development, income growth, or job creation. 

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The economic benefits the the politicians crow about simply don't exist. As far as the politician is concerned that doesn't matter as long as the voters believe it is true. It appeals to emotion which makes it an easy sell. 

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  On 12/16/2017 at 5:24 PM, Kirby Jackson said:

Twist words much? 

 

I think that the Bills need to close the revenue gap with larger market teams because the shared revenue pool is a bubble that isn’t going to grow much more. I don’t want to be a have not. Yes, I think that the next stadium should be a public-private partnership, just like everyone else is doing!! I don’t think being the lowest revenue club in the NFL is a good long-term strategy. I think a couple hundred million in PSLs is perfectly reasonable.

 

I am a little sensitive on the subject because it’s an area that I know well.  Do you think that the Pegula’s have been competent as owners??? Rex, Murray, Bylsma, etc... They took a hockey team with a world of assets and turned that rebuild into the worst team in the league!!

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Not to mention Pegula’s wheelhouse is apparently hockey and the Sabres, whereas his wife is more of the Bills fan than he ever was. 

 

Personally I think Pegula is just too easily sold on ideas because he has no experience in the world of sports ownership, and being 2018 we know every painfully obvious misstep from that lack of experience. 

 

But he’s rich and kept the team here so every fan has their mouth opened wide and ready to receive. 

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  On 12/16/2017 at 3:22 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

 

I was about to say something similar. Why pour millions into a dump you're ready to move out of? 

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Because they arent planning to move and these talks and behind the scenes things are just to appease Goodell to make them look like they aee doing things?

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  On 3/30/2018 at 10:40 AM, Gigs said:

Not to mention Pegula’s wheelhouse is apparently hockey and the Sabres, whereas his wife is more of the Bills fan than he ever was. 

 

Personally I think Pegula is just too easily sold on ideas because he has no experience in the world of sports ownership, and being 2018 we know every painfully obvious misstep from that lack of experience. 

 

But he’s rich and kept the team here so every fan has their mouth opened wide and ready to receive. 

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That story applies to municipalities bending over to pay fully for stadiums. It doesn't discuss partnerships where the team owner pays the lion's share. 

 

If you've been down to Canalside, then you know how much that development is being driven by the Pegulas, and the city is reaping the benefit. If the city, county and state are smart, they invest to keep that momentum going. 

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