hondo in seattle Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, Mat68 said: The exact reason why Mcermott didn't pick up his option and oked the the trade. Buffalo needs a tremendous amount of character and leadership to turn around the 17 year old fiasco. Stat me guys do nothing to change the culture and expectations of the team moving forward. On a winning team Watkins would be little to no problem. for a franchise trying to climb out of the gutter Watkins is a monkey on your back. Yep. I've always suspected that Sammy was let go more for character issues than injury and productions concerns. Maybe Sammy's different now, but in Buffalo he was not a McD, team-first kind of guy.
Teddy KGB Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Sammy had more yards per game and more receptions per game in 2015 and 2016 than he does this seasom. He had more total targets in 2015 and only 6 less total targets in 2016 despite playing in 5 fewer games. So if Tyrod was ignoring him, what is Goff doing? If he complained to the LA Times about his targets would that be acceptable to you? Sammy > all our wideouts by far
Royale with Cheese Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 53 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Thanks for stopping by. 29 first downs and 7 TDs on 34 catches is pretty impactful I'd say. That’s good production for a #2 WR. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2017 Author Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: That’s good production for a #2 WR. He's their #1 WR who draws coverage from the oppositions top CB on a weekly basis. You'd know that if you were paying attention. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: He's their #1 WR who draws coverage from the oppositions top CB on a weekly basis. You'd know that if you were paying attention. Im assuming that Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, OBJ and AJ Green are doing just the same thing in regards of production? Unless you think those guys don’t draw the top CB?
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2017 Author Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Im assuming that Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, OBJ and AJ Green are doing just the same thing in regards of production? Unless you think those guys don’t draw the top CB? Sean McVay's system doesn't focus on feeding one target.
BillsVet Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 2 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said: Ah yes, the upcoming free agent's "maturation" Sounds like Sammy's agent been working the phones for some good PR. A savvy thing to do in light of this down year he's having.
CommonCents Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Thanks for stopping by. 29 first downs and 7 TDs on 34 catches is pretty impactful I'd say. Mercedes Lewis has 5 touchdowns on 19 catches. Is he good? 8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Im assuming that Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, OBJ and AJ Green are doing just the same thing in regards of production? Unless you think those guys don’t draw the top CB? If you want a laugh look at Watkins ghosting against top 10 cornerbacks. Usually totally invisible, ocassional a catch or two and 30 yards.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2017 Author Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Mercedes Lewis has 5 touchdowns on 19 catches. Is he good? If you want a laugh look at Watkins ghosting against top 10 cornerbacks. Usually totally invisible, ocassional a catch or two and 30 yards. Is Mercedes Lewis drawing the weekly assignment from #CBs as a TE no less? No. Silly comparison. Edited December 15, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz
BuffaloBill Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 2 hours ago, GG said: This is why he was traded, and a lot of times troubled players need a change of scenery. It may also simply be an age or stage of life issue. It has to be difficult being that young and coming into that much money suddenly. No doubt there are many people trying to get their fingers into the wallet.
Royale with Cheese Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: Sean McVay's system doesn't focus on feeding one target. Thats great. Except for Pierre Garçon who averaged over 100 targets a season with McVay. Except for who had 100 and 95 targets in two seasons with McVay. The 3rd year 48 but only played 8 games. Except for Jordan Reedwho averaged 90 targets a season with McVay. Watkins....58 in 13 games. 2
The Frankish Reich Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 2 hours ago, jmc12290 said: Sammy is trying to get ahead of his rep before he hits FA. Hope he's truly matured. Yep. Alternate headlines: 1. Facing Free Agency, Sammy Watkins Takes Pains to Reflect on his Maturation into a Team Player. 2. With a Mediocre Stat Line in a High-Powered Offense, Sammy Watkins Points out to Potential Suitors that He Isn't Motivated by Personal Numbers
BADOLBILZ Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 32 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Yep. I've always suspected that Sammy was let go more for character issues than injury and productions concerns. Maybe Sammy's different now, but in Buffalo he was not a McD, team-first kind of guy. There aren't enough talented, naturally "team-first at the expense of paycheck" kinda' guys in the NFL to stock even one good team...........you need to take young stars like Watkins with modest maturity issues and legit gripes with the organization and prove to them you are worthy of their unquestioned faith. McVay got buy-in with Sammy and the rest of the Rams because he immediately showed he was an aggressive, difference maker as a coach. For Sean McDermott's first trick he brought in play-scared Jauron-ball. The net result? Same as the past........OK maybe worse......team always turtles at mid-season but this year there was some epic quitting/biz decisions going on...............followed by the obligatory late heroic push for the last seed in the playoffs. This is the time of year when players are most selfishly motivated.........they want good film at the end of the season to make a good last impression as they seek to get more money or retain jobs for next year. Many also want the staff retained so they don't have to learn new systems and show up for extra-offseason OTA's. Anyone who thinks this team has looked bought-in throughout games in the past month needs glasses. They should have lost to the Colts for chrissake.
CommonCents Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Is Mercedes Lewis drawing the weekly assignment from #CBs? No. Silly comparison. Uhhh go look at his stats when they play against teams with good corners. He got a touchdown against AZ but it was a little stacked play to keep him away from Pat Pete. Rashaan Melvin 5 for 58 Sherman 0-0 Ramsey 1-11 Pat Pete 3-42 Pat Pete 3-38 Rhodes 3-36 one touchdown against AZ it wasn't on Peterson. The Giants Touchdown was a busted coverage against DRC and collins who let him run free. If he sees so much number 1, where was Janoris!? Edited December 15, 2017 by Commonsense
4merper4mer Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: Wow. So sayeth the Skurski, so sayeth the flock.
CommonCents Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Thats great. Except for Pierre Garçon who averaged over 100 targets a season with McVay. Except for who had 100 and 95 targets in two seasons with McVay. The 3rd year 48 but only played 8 games. Except for Jordan Reedwho averaged 90 targets a season with McVay. Watkins....58 in 13 games. In another thread I listed Garcon's catch totals he had something like 3 games in 3 years with 3 catches or less. Watkins catches 3 or less more often than not.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 15, 2017 Author Posted December 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Thats great. Except for Pierre Garçon who averaged over 100 targets a season with McVay. Except for who had 100 and 95 targets in two seasons with McVay. The 3rd year 48 but only played 8 games. Except for Jordan Reedwho averaged 90 targets a season with McVay. Watkins....58 in 13 games. W/O the benefit of a full offseason of OTAs, minicamps, and TC to fully immerse himself in the system. The Rams are happy with his production as well as the opportunities he opens up for Woods, Kupp and others by design and matchup concepts.
HappyDays Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 16 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Thats great. Except for Pierre Garçon who averaged over 100 targets a season with McVay. Except for who had 100 and 95 targets in two seasons with McVay. The 3rd year 48 but only played 8 games. Except for Jordan Reedwho averaged 90 targets a season with McVay. Watkins....58 in 13 games. Sammy isn't the #1 receiver in LA, it is painfully obvious to anyone without an agenda.
BADOLBILZ Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Yep. Alternate headlines: 1. Facing Free Agency, Sammy Watkins Takes Pains to Reflect on his Maturation into a Team Player. 2. With a Mediocre Stat Line in a High-Powered Offense, Sammy Watkins Points out to Potential Suitors that He Isn't Motivated by Personal Numbers Meh that means little really. Easy to be a team guy in his situation now.......this isn't his originally scheduled walk year. Watkins is most likely looking at a one-year prove it deal for $7M-$9M.......which was his range if the Bills had 5th year optioned him. In the meantime he gets to compete for a championship.
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