Beth Mowins and Jay Feely Calling Dolphins vs. Bills for CBS

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, WhoTom said:

 

I agree. I find some voices annoying as hell, and that's not dependent on the speaker's gender. I didn't find hers all that bad, but to each his own.

 

I also cringe at certain announcers' pronunciations, like Wilcots (Buffalo Beals), Gannon (Owfense), and Gruden (Nickle Roby).

 

 

Well, someone earlier made that assertion. That chapped my sensibilities.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

13 minutes ago, blacklabel said:

Feely wasn't great. He repeats himself a lot and seemed to pick really mundane plays/moments in the game to highlight as crucial or important.

 

Mowins is OK. I'm not a huge fan of her voice but she does a good job. She might work better with a different commentator than Feely.

 

Next week is Nantz and Romo. I quickly grew tired of those two. Nantz used to be tolerable when he had Phil Seems next to him but I suppose anyone sounds good next to Seems. And how he ended up with the main anchor job in the studio is beyond me. Dude constantly trailed off mid-sentence, said incoherent things, said "talked about" 52 times a game, etc. And as for Romo, I got a kick out of his first few games when he was sitting there calling out what the plays were gonna be. His insight as a former QB is fantastic but he gets a little annoying when he tries too hard to make something sound exciting. 

 

I dig Gus Johnson the most, probably. But he's been on Fox since 2011 and Buffalo plays on Fox only once or twice a year.

 

Gus isn't part of any NFL on FOX announcing crew.  He primarily does CFB and CBB.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Gus isn't part of any NFL on FOX announcing crew.  He primarily does CFB and CBB.

 

That's a shame. I loved his NFL calls.

 

"BEHIND THE SECONDARY!!"

 

[phypon]

5 minutes ago, DC Greg said:

 

If I were looking to identify the sensitive sally, or "snowflake" if you prefer, this little fit would seem to identify that person.

Please enlighten us with your superior intellect as to how you came to this conclusion.  Please break down the post you are questioning to support your sentiment.  If you can, please do it line by line.  Thanks!

Edited December 18, 2017 by phypon

[C.Biscuit97]

44 minutes ago, phypon said:

Pffftttt...sorry that people are criticizing a female announcer.  Are you offended?   

Your personal attacks don't make up for what you lack.

 

i really pay little attention to announcers because I watch the game with groups of people.  But post suggesting she might be a man and crap is just embarrassing.  

[Chandler#81]

38 minutes ago, phypon said:

Pffftttt...sorry that people are criticizing a female announcer.  Are you offended?   

 

Ya never know what you’re gonna get with C.Biscuit. Usually, he’s a fine poster and adds much to discussion. However, about 1 week a month, he’s irritable, moody, bitchy and I think maybe he adds a few pounds of water weight.. 

But, Hey! In this open society, everyone’s views are accepted and respected.

[phypon]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Your personal attacks don't make up for what you lack.

 

i really pay little attention to announcers because I watch the game with groups of people.  But post suggesting she might be a man and crap is just embarrassing.  

Personal attacks?  What the hell are you talking about?  Suggesting she might be a man??  Again, what the hell are you talking about?? 

[buffalobloodfloridahome]

Her voice came off as nails on a chalk board and neither commentator added anything to the game. In fact some of the things they said frustrated me. I am not a fan of either, looking forward to Romo next week.

[ndirish1978]

5 hours ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Where is the 15 page thread dedicated to Jay Feely? Who kept referring to a Bills zone blocking scheme that the Bills haven't run in the last 6 weeks. 

 

People are on her because she's a woman. Announcers screw up all the time. Hers were about par for the course for the C level announcers, which is exactly what she and her team were. 

 

This is pure white-knighting BS. The thread was at like 5 pages when the game ended, then you all came out of the woodwork to show how you were better than the people complaining and to point out how progressive you are. Mowins was terrible, Feely was terrible. People complained about Solomon Wilcotts here all the time when he called our games, it's part of the inferiority complex people here have about getting the C squads as commentators. People complain about announcers. Get over it. 

[phypon]

1 minute ago, DC Greg said:

 

You're calling other people "snowflakes" and not real men because they disagreed with your assessment that this announcer sucks and/or her voice is annoying. To me, the need to resort to name calling and trying to belittle others in that meltdown of yours shows your own personal sensitivity. So what I'm saying is that in my opinion, you seem like the sensitive, insecure one, or "snowflake" as you described it. Does that make sense? Not sure if I checked the line by line box.

Actually, your post makes perfect sense.  It's not about people disagreeing with me or the other posters in this thread that feel the same way as I do.  It's the sensitive posters or "snowflakes" that felt compelled to trash other posters in this thread for having an opinion and criticism about an announcer that "happens" to be a female and that's the only reason they are attacking other posters and defending the announcer.  

 

The posters that are "belittling" people are the one's that are sensitive to the fact that a female announcer is getting criticized for a poor performance.  

 

As to your opinion about me seeming sensitive and insecure, I'm not insecure, but I am sensitive when it comes to standing up for peoples' rights to have an opinion and not be harassed or shamed for having their own opinion because other's deem it not politically correct.  The announcer is a poor announcer and should not be given a pass based on gender.

 

You used the word meltdown.  I think you have that backwards.

 

2 minutes ago, DC Greg said:

 

Just speaking for myself, I'm here to legitimately offer an opinion, not show how progressive I am. Just because you state things like the bolded as fact doesn't make it so. I don't think she was terrible. Not the best football play by play I've ever heard but certainly not the worst. 

 

You're not here to legitimately offer an opinion, you're here to legitimately argue with other posters.  If you were here to offer your opinion you would have done so without quoting or replying to other posters.   

[ndirish1978]

6 minutes ago, DC Greg said:

 

Just speaking for myself, I'm here to legitimately offer an opinion, not show how progressive I am. Just because you state things like the bolded as fact doesn't make it so. I don't think she was terrible. Not the best football play by play I've ever heard but certainly not the worst. 

 

 

There are plenty of people who came in and offered their opinions. If the thread had stayed on point - everyone stating straight up opinions on the commentary, it would have ended yesterday. The people starting debates in here are the ones drawing it out. You can have an opinion that Beth was not good and not be a mysoginist. I get tired of people running in to tell me what I meant. I know what I meant when I wrote things. I found her voice annoying and I found her Bills knowledge lacking. There was no chemistry between the two and most of the attempts at lighthearted humor were awkward. Her pal came in here trying to equate her effort with her skill and I took issue with that logical fallacy. Where did I state that my personal opinion is law? 

Edited December 18, 2017 by ndirish1978

[BillsFan130]

54 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

According to Beth multiple times during the game. McCoy was also playing QB. 

Lol. She once said something like..." McCoy gets out of pressure, throws it downfield and completes it to McCoy"... Lol

[26CornerBlitz]

Does anyone get upset when former Buffalo Bill great Steve Tasker gets negatively critiqued?  By any objective measure, he's awful.

[phypon]

Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:

Does anyone get upset when former Buffalo Bill great Steve Tasker gets negatively critiqued?  By any objective measure, he's awful.

For the most part I think he's okay.  And no, I'm not upset that you don't like him as an announcer.  I do think he tries too hard to not be a "homer" at times and that's annoying.  

 

But...HOW DARE YOU criticize him!  I'm calling misandry on you!  So not cool and so not PC...err...wait, that is PC...

 

I keed, I keed 

[phypon]

2 minutes ago, DC Greg said:

 

Last post for me because I have other things to do. I completely agree with the bolded and never said that about anyone. Only personal thing I said about anyone was that the guy who thinks he's more of a man than other people and resorted to name calling because he's in the "Mowins sucks" camp is a joke. I disagree that her Bills knowledge was lacking compared to some of the other bad announcers that call our games and offered some reasons that I thought so. I don't know why you're putting an arbitrary expiration date on when something can be discussed. This popped up today, and people decided to weigh in. So what? I don't see the problem with a debate. 

 

You said "Mowins was terrible". My contention is that you're presenting that like it's some verifiable piece of information. It's just your personal opinion, which is fine. I respect your and others' opinion that she's not a good announcer. I say the same thing all the time about John Murphy and others. Seems to me like there's a pretty even split between people who thought she was good, ok, or terrible. Just making the case for my opinion.

I guess I'm the "other guy".  Why are you even in this thread if you disagree?  You're just trolling posters.  If you want name calling I'll give you name calling. You're a troll and a kitty.  You can type like a champ and have great paragraph structure and your trolling skills are nigh.  Isn't there a protest you should be attending??

 

Seriously dude, you're a simp, look it up.  Sorry that you are hurt that people have an opinion that is negative about an announcer.  You want to take it to the next level and try to come off as high and mighty and champion some cause that doesn't even exist.  

 

What is it about people not liking the announcer that made you feel the need to morally challenge others in this thread?:  Serious question.  Because, I'll tell you, that is a problem.  

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

28 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

Does anyone get upset when former Buffalo Bill great Steve Tasker gets negatively critiqued?  By any objective measure, he's awful.

 

I don't. Steve Tasker's been dead to me for a LONG time.

 

[phypon]

2 minutes ago, DC Greg said:

 

Why am I in this thread if I disagree? This thread isn't titled "Only post in here if you think Mowins sucks as an announcer." Your opinion does not rule the thread nor is it the end all and be all opinion. I'm in here to offer my opinion that she did a good job, and that's all I did. Go back and read my posts and tell me where I'm trying to champion some social cause. That's some political battle you're trying to project onto me that's coming out of nowhere. I'm laying out the reasons I thought she did well and also repeatedly pointing out that I respect people who disagree. Nowhere did I "morally challenge" anyone. I said you are a joke for trying to name call other posters and repeatedly proclaim over and over again that you're more of a man than faceless names on an internet message board. And for that, yes, I did call you a joke. A hilarious, hilarious joke.

You're in this thread and all of your posts have been antagonistic.  Go read them.  

 

You're not offering any opinion, you're just trolling.  Not once have you offered an opinion, the only thing you've done or posted has been quoting and replying to other posters.

 

You've laid out no reasons.  Ironically, you're the one now name calling...which is exactly how you started off posting in this thread.  

 

And here you go, you're better than everyone else and everyone else is a joke.  Do you feel better now?  I thought you were done with this thread?  

[phypon]

Yeah, okay, pal.  

 

[Plano]

2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

This thread is embarrassing. She was fine.  I wonder if some of you studs would be so aggressive with your comments if you had to post using your ugly mugs as your avatar.

 

Exactly. She did a fine job yesterday.

 

Pigs gonna pig, that's all there is to it.

 

I'm sure they're all wonderful color commentators who look absolutely fantastic.

[Peter]

I thought that Mowins did a great job.

 

I have no complaints.

Edited December 18, 2017 by Peter