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  On 12/18/2017 at 2:13 PM, plenzmd1 said:

My thoughts exactly. He was just god awful. At one point his exact quote "Tyrod is most dangerous when he drops back" ..what????

 

Mowins was at least competent, not great, not awful..Feely was terrible

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I mentioned it above but the camera crew was bad as well. And the graphic tags of Landry were bad when there was one tag roughly aligned over 3 WRs in the bunch formation. And the time they tagged all 5 WRs as Landry was worse. She was working with the Keystone Cops of CBS. Even with all that, who cares? The announcers just escort you through the game. Occasionally one of them is so good that I enjoy it. Rarely do they make any difference in my level of enjoyment. 

 

People are here to complain because she was a woman. Plain and simple. 

 

Was she great? No. Was she adequate. Of course. 

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Well, they BOTH made my ears bleed. Does that make it ok? Shesh you all thinking people attack other women because she is a woman, men are attacking her because she sounds like an ex-wife, yada, yada. How about they BOTH SUCKED!?  Not everything is policial, sexist, misandrist, misogynist, racist, or whatever other -ist or -ism you want to attach to a subject. Sometimes, black, white, pink or green, male, female or other - someone(s) simply does not do a good job.  Period.

I actually thought Jay Freely was worse, but so many mistakes by Beth Mowins. So, so, SO many mistakes. The announcers get worse and worse every year it seems.

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I thought she was ok, that's about it. Feely was annoying. At first I couldn't figure out if it was a high voiced guy calling it. Then I thought it was Jodie Foster calling the game. I don't think she'll be getting a Pats game to call any time soon!

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  On 12/18/2017 at 2:08 PM, BeginnersMind said:

 

Where is the 15 page thread dedicated to Jay Feely? Who kept referring to a Bills zone blocking scheme that the Bills haven't run in the last 6 weeks. 

 

People are on her because she's a woman. Announcers screw up all the time. Hers were about par for the course for the C level announcers, which is exactly what she and her team were. 

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You are completely wrong.  YOU'RE in this thread because "she's a woman".  Sorry that the fact that people had a problem with the announcing bothers you.

 

  On 12/18/2017 at 3:15 PM, Buffalo_Gal said:

Well, they BOTH made my ears bleed. Does that make it ok? Shesh you all thinking people attack other women because she is a woman, men are attacking her because she sounds like an ex-wife, yada, yada. How about they BOTH SUCKED!?  Not everything is policial, sexist, misandrist, misogynist, racist, or whatever other -ist or -ism you want to attach to a subject. Sometimes, black, white, pink or green, male, female or other - someone(s) simply does not do a good job.  Period.

I actually thought Jay Freely was worse, but so many mistakes by Beth Mowins. So, so, SO many mistakes. The announcers get worse and worse every year it seems.

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well said!

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  On 12/18/2017 at 3:04 PM, BeginnersMind said:

 

I mentioned it above but the camera crew was bad as well. And the graphic tags of Landry were bad when there was one tag roughly aligned over 3 WRs in the bunch formation. And the time they tagged all 5 WRs as Landry was worse. She was working with the Keystone Cops of CBS. Even with all that, who cares? The announcers just escort you through the game. Occasionally one of them is so good that I enjoy it. Rarely do they make any difference in my level of enjoyment. 

 

People are here to complain because she was a woman. Plain and simple. 

 

Was she great? No. Was she adequate. Of course. 

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I'll say it again: her knowledge was fine. Her pitch and tone was annoying.

 

There's nothing sexist about it, it just IS.

 

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  On 12/18/2017 at 3:31 PM, dickleyjones said:

i didn't realize people care so much about who the announcers are. most of them don't add much to the game. Beth was fine.

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Along with threads informing members who the officiating crew is there are also typically threads about who the announcers will be for each game.  Pretty much every week for years.

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  On 12/18/2017 at 3:35 PM, phypon said:

Along with threads informing members who the officiating crew is there are also typically threads about who the announcers will be for each game.  Pretty much every week for years.

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i'm not referring to the thread title, but rather the heated debate within the thread. 

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  On 12/18/2017 at 3:48 PM, dickleyjones said:

i'm not referring to the thread title, but rather the heated debate within the thread. 

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Again, there are frequently threads about the announcers.  People do care, there is a search function and there is a feature that allows you to go back and look at older threads.

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  On 12/18/2017 at 3:55 PM, phypon said:

Again, there are frequently threads about the announcers.  People do care, there is a search function and there is a feature that allows you to go back and look at older threads.

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yes i've seen the threads over the many years. this one was special for some reason...

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  On 12/18/2017 at 3:15 PM, Buffalo_Gal said:

Well, they BOTH made my ears bleed. Does that make it ok? Shesh you all thinking people attack other women because she is a woman, men are attacking her because she sounds like an ex-wife, yada, yada. How about they BOTH SUCKED!?  Not everything is policial, sexist, misandrist, misogynist, racist, or whatever other -ist or -ism you want to attach to a subject. Sometimes, black, white, pink or green, male, female or other - someone(s) simply does not do a good job.  Period.

I actually thought Jay Freely was worse, but so many mistakes by Beth Mowins. So, so, SO many mistakes. The announcers get worse and worse every year it seems.

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Even though you used a very compelling combination of bold and caps, I don't agree that she made so, so, so many mistakes. She accidentally called Taylor McCoy once or twice. That was the only thing I caught. Announcers do things like that all the time. Happens in almost every single game.

 

I was watching the CBS post game, and Bill Cowher made the same mistake (accidentally calling the quarterback the receivers' name) while doing the recap of a game. Can't remember who followed Cowher (Boomer or someone), but they totally missed their queue and botched the whole highlight clip. Instead of getting things back on track, everyone in the studio started yelling at once incoherently for about 10 seconds.

 

My point is that it happens all the time to most announcers. I thought Mowins was exceptionally knowledgeable about the Bills and really did a good job talking about aspects of the team that most announcers don't care enough about to do their homework on. 

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  On 12/18/2017 at 5:06 PM, DC Greg said:

 

Even though you used a very compelling combination of bold and caps, I don't agree that she made so, so, so many mistakes. She accidentally called Taylor McCoy once or twice. That was the only thing I caught. Announcers do things like that all the time. Happens in almost every single game.

 

I was watching the CBS post game, and Bill Cowher made the same mistake (accidentally calling the quarterback the receivers' name) while doing the recap of a game. Can't remember who followed Cowher (Boomer or someone), but they totally missed their queue and botched the whole highlight clip. Instead of getting things back on track, everyone in the studio started yelling at once incoherently for about 10 seconds.

 

My point is that it happens all the time to most announcers. I thought Mowins was exceptionally knowledgeable about the Bills and really did a good job talking about aspects of the team that most announcers don't care enough about to do their homework on. 

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What aspects of the team do you feel that the announcers did a good job doing their homework on?

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  On 12/18/2017 at 2:13 PM, plenzmd1 said:

My thoughts exactly. He was just god awful. At one point his exact quote "Tyrod is most dangerous when he drops back" ..what????

 

Mowins was at least competent, not great, not awful..Feely was terrible

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I laughed my ass off when he said that. I was thinking, "Yeah, and Shady is most dangerous when he has the ball."

 

 

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  On 12/18/2017 at 5:32 PM, WhoTom said:

 

I laughed my ass off when he said that. I was thinking, "Yeah, and Shady is most dangerous when he has the ball."

 

 

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I know it's not PC and I'll probably get flamed for this, but...kickers...

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  On 12/18/2017 at 2:13 PM, Boyst62 said:

I'd hate to imagine what giving the microphone to someone like us for 3 hours would end up as.  Only PTR has the ability, that I know of, to do this.

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Ever see "Drunk History"? Picture that, but with fans announcing football.

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The best way to assess Mowins' performance during CBS' coverage of the Buffalo Bills' 24-16 victory over the Miami Dolphins Sunday is to use the same criteria as assessing the men who have worked Bills game.

 

That means assessing her voice, her knowledge, her ability to quickly identify players, her excitement level and her ability to ask her analyst, former NFL kicker Jay Feely, the right questions that elicit interesting comments.

 

Overall, she earned more than a passing grade working her second CBS game this season and third regular NFL game overall. She also worked a Monday Night Football game opener alongside former Bills Coach Rex Ryan.

 

I don't love her voice. But I also don’t love Feely's voice.

 

Feely contradicted himself at times and didn't offer any more original thinking than Ryan did on his MNF game debut. Feely seemed obsessed with statistics to the point you wondered if he was auditioning for a job in analytics.

 

The bottom line is I'd be more willing to hear more from Mowins than Feely and would be especially interested if she worked another game and was given a stronger partner than Feely or Ryan.

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