PolishDave Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: We have a 3rd waver here. Rob's cat: Rob's new kitten: Edited December 12, 2017 by PolishDave 1
boyst Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, teef said: it's funny that you mentioned hospitals, because you nailed it. there's a ton of dating among coworkers in those joints. i dated someone that worked with me in our department, and technically i was her higher up, (i couldn't hire/fire someone in her position though) and no one had a problem with it. i'm sure those days are gone now. For a year I only dated travel nurses. Omg. What a joy
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Not really a shift at all. I happen to believe that what constitutes acceptable or appropriate behavior in any given situation should come pretty easily to you - and we shouldn't have to have a comprehensive list to go by. If you need a list, then, by all means, develop one and pin it to your shirt. Finally getting back to being honest in your posts. Again, you simply wish to substitute your fiat declarations for what is reasonable; and to those ends refuse the discussion.
GunnerBill Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: So many ways to take this. Let's start simply. When it happens. Report it then. Scream it atop The mountains. Don't let yourself be put in a position to allow this to happen as a male or female. If someone is in appropriate then you leave the situation then and there. And do not return. I don't agree with you in general on this topic but I do agree with the above 100%. I do struggle with why people let things go unchecked or unreported. No job would be so important to me that I would allow someone to sexually assault me and continue to put myself in that position without taking action.
Rob's House Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: We have a 3rd waver here. Sorry that I'm against rape. I didn't know that was such an extremist position. You sound like that scumbag from Hemet who thinks it's ok to give a woman a side hug without first asking her permission. 1
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I don't think you're really in a position to tell anyone when and how they should report sexual assault. The reason most people don't initially come forward is the fear of not being believed and the consequences that follow personally, and professionally. Believing the accuser is not a reasonable standard when metering out consequences. There is a reason liberalism evolved a standard of "innocent until proven guilty", and while we aren't talking about the law, we are talking about an operational societal standard. Edited December 12, 2017 by TakeYouToTasker
GoBills808 Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Your individual learnings likely based on your predisposed beliefs and lifestyle. Basically, this is your set of feelings. They hold no facts. An individual's learnings, in the context of said person's beliefs and lifestyle, are 'feelings'? That's a tough field to plow.
jrober38 Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: And this is your #feeling why? I'm sure I won't care what it is, but that's just insane you'll take 3 plain and simple things and refute them Check your man card. It's not a feeling. There's plenty of research by trained psychologists that explains why victims don't immediately come forward.
T-Bomb Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rob's House said: Sorry that I'm against rape. I didn't know that was such an extremist position. You sound like that scumbag from Hemet who thinks it's ok to give a woman a side hug without first asking her permission. My goodness you have so much hate, meh, may as well hate all men.
HappyDays Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 If a private company hears credible accusations against one of their employees they are pretty much obligated to act. If a legal incident happened as a result of them leaving the employee in place they could be held liable. Private companies aren't courts. The same rights of due process don't apply.
Rob's House Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Believing the accuser is not a reasonable standard when metering out consequences. But more women will write approving messages and still not sleep with you if you post #believewomen on FB.
DC Tom Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: It's not a feeling. There's plenty of research by trained psychologists that explains why victims don't immediately come forward. And the solution should be to encourage them to come forward immediately. Not to encourage the social punishment of alleged perpetrators thirty years later. This is the wrong solution to a real problem. 1
billsfan1959 Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Finally getting back to being honest in your posts. Again, you simply wish to substitute your fiat declarations for what is reasonable; and to those ends refuse the discussion. My posts haven't changed in the least. I began my posts with my belief that it is reasonable to assume you should be able to determine what is appropriate or inappropriate behavior in any given situation - and that it shouldn't be that difficult. My belief is still the same. Feel free to believe otherwise. Nobody is stopping you. Edited December 12, 2017 by billsfan1959
teef Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: For a year I only dated travel nurses. Omg. What a joy nurses and assistants in hospitals are the absolute best. 1
jrober38 Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: And the solution should be to encourage them to come forward immediately. Not to encourage the social punishment of alleged perpetrators thirty years later. This is the wrong solution to a real problem. You've got to start somewhere. Maybe in 30 years we'll live in a society where victims feel comfortable coming forward immediately. Reality is that we're not there yet. 1
PolishDave Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, teef said: nurses and assistants in hospitals are the absolute best. I thought hairdressers were the real freaks? You can't date them though because they are ALL batcrap crazy. Every single one. Zero exceptions. 100% irrefutable. Nutso - cookoo
T-Bomb Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, teef said: nurses and assistants in hospitals are the absolute best. So, what am I missing? Been dating a nurse for 14 years, not sure what is so special... 1
TigerJ Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, PolishDave said: I wonder if there is any correlation with( bad parenting/lack of parenting) and degenerate kids turning into degenerate adults? Hmmmmmm....... Absolutely. I am concerned for the future of our country and western culture in general because of irresponsibility in parenting.
PolishDave Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 Just now, T-Bomb said: So, what am I missing? Been dating a nurse for 14 years, not sure what is so special... What he means is that - if she's not putting out for you - it's because she is putting out for someone at work. 1
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 12, 2017 Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: My posts haven't changed in the least. I began my posts with my belief that it is reasonable to assume you should able to determine what is appropriate or inappropriate in any given situation - and that it shouldn't be that difficult. My belief is still the same. Feel free to believe otherwise. Nobody is stopping you. You're being intellectually dishonest, which is a shame because this had the potential to be an interesting discussion.. The truth is that you want an enforceable standard you are unwilling to define, outside of the notion that the standard should disadvantage men who engage in normal sexual behaviors.
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