Real McClappy Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, Air it out Fitzy said: Dont leave Hogan out. Wr’s all screwed by Trenatibe Taylor It's pretty crazy how Great a WR core we had here, Add Clay and McCoy to the mix = just scary good. Watkins Woods Goodwin Hogan Clay McCOy Looks legit now.
Maine-iac Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 Goodwin was ALWAYS hurt. Prior to last year he didn't even play in 24 out of 48 games. Last year he played way more than he had in any other season and he got better while doing it. Goodwin still is what he is. He could never get off a jam so if you are a running team with 2TE and 2WR packages and an oline that can't keep anyone off the QB chances are he's not going to have time to get open. If you run a spread offense and move him around, keep him from getting jamed he is fast as hell and can catch the ball. Let's not kid ourselves though, Goodwin wouldn't be doing what he's doing in SF here. This offense, as it is being run, needs a healthy KB. A healthy Clay and a healthy McCoy.
Teddy KGB Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 22 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: It's pretty crazy how Great a WR core we had here, Add Clay and McCoy to the mix = just scary good. Watkins Woods Goodwin Hogan Clay McCOy Looks legit now. Thank god it ends this year ??
Doc Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 36 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: It's pretty crazy how Great a WR core we had here, Add Clay and McCoy to the mix = just scary good. Watkins Woods Goodwin Hogan Clay McCOy Looks legit now. Benjamin Matthews Jones Thompson Clay McCoy Would look legit if the players were healthy. 1
BigDingus Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 26 minutes ago, Doc said: Benjamin Matthews Jones Thompson Clay McCoy Would look legit if the players were healthy. It's a pretty good group overall. Matthews has never had below an 800 yard season in his career until this year, Thompson was supposed to be a bigger factor in our offense as he's shown the ability to make big plays, Benjamin is a legit number 1, Clay is an awesome TE and would have great numbers if we had a good QB, and McCoy...well nothing needs to be said about how good he is.
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re enlightener Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 6 hours ago, White Linen said: Good guy for sure but I hated him as a WR on this team. Dropped balls and injuries were just too much to deal with. Jesus, had to comment- first, guy barely dropped a ball here, period. he was injured due to miss-use, 3 yard crossing routes instead of deep balls( which he caught w ease when actually given a chance.) Filled in many times for the real glass wr's here, mainly twatkins. His production in SF proves he was always good, just not utilized properly. Maybe your thinking of Tj graham or SJ who dropped almost as many as twatkins? or your blind?
BuffaloRush Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 You can't blame the Bills for moving on. He was always hurt. When Goodwin was active though, he was a good player. Glad to see him succeed
Ol Dirty B Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, re enlightener said: Jesus, had to comment- first, guy barely dropped a ball here, period. he was injured due to miss-use, 3 yard crossing routes instead of deep balls( which he caught w ease when actually given a chance.) Filled in many times for the real glass wr's here, mainly twatkins. His production in SF proves he was always good, just not utilized properly. Maybe your thinking of Tj graham or SJ who dropped almost as many as twatkins? or your blind? Wow... I thought the poster you quoted was immature and inaccurate... and then you come in chastising him and keep calling Watkins twatkins and talking about Watkins dropping balls like that was an issue with him. I'm not even going to get in to the rest of it, crossing routes and what not. Goodwin was not featured over the middle a lot. Goodwin is a weird battle to choose though with this team and the exodus of talent. 4 hours ago, Doc said: Benjamin Matthews Jones Thompson Clay McCoy Would look legit if the players were healthy. You're joking right? Thompson, Matthews, and Jones don't even compare. I like Thompson, I think he's ok, but he was cut by the !@#$ing Bears earlier this year. Jones is... Jones, a guy this fanbase keeps claiming is good even though he has looked like **** to this point. Does Matthews even have 200 yards on the year? And you're going to compare him to Watkins, Woods, or Goodwin? Not that Goodwin lit it up, but really? Matthews has been awful. But I'm sure we'll blame the QB for that. I'd prefer to blame the coaches, but again we don't do that here. We just blame the QB for everything. It's early with Benjamin but I still don't think he's better than Watkins, especially with Tyrod at QB. Edited December 11, 2017 by Ol Dirty B
Doc Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: You're joking right? Thompson, Matthews, and Jones don't even compare. I like Thompson, I think he's ok, but he was cut by the !@#$ing Bears earlier this year. Jones is... Jones, a guy this fanbase keeps claiming is good even though he has looked like **** to this point. Does Matthews even have 200 yards on the year? And you're going to compare him to Watkins, Woods, or Goodwin? Not that Goodwin lit it up, but really? Matthews has been awful. But I'm sure we'll blame the QB for that. I'd prefer to blame the coaches, but again we don't do that here. We just blame the QB for everything. It's early with Benjamin but I still don't think he's better than Watkins, especially with Tyrod at QB. Why would I be joking? I'd put those 4 WR's, when healthy and with a good QB, up against the ones Real McCoy listed any day. If the Bills had kept the other guys, they'd still be getting thrown to by the same QB(s).
re enlightener Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 9:57 PM, Ol Dirty B said: ue with him. I'm not even going to get in to the rest of it, crossing routes and what not. Goodwin was not featured over the middle a lot. goodwin was injured two separate years on short throws, 1 the first catch of the year on a crossing route. maybe thats why he wasnt featured....period. maybe learn your topic better, goodwin was great, just misused, as proven now by his production on a yet crappy team like SF, and watkins is a little P, as evidenced by his several drops which didnt count as drops because of the db in the area. but a real talent would have easily came up with half of those balls, or more, not P watkins though.
boyst Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 I love how he had Olympic speed and was a !@#$ing long jumper. Dude wasn't even the fastest guy on the team. Graham was much faster which I find funny.
re enlightener Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 Just now, Boyst62 said: I love how he had Olympic speed and was a !@#$ing long jumper. Dude wasn't even the fastest guy on the team. Graham was much faster which I find funny. how much fater, goodwin had the faster 40 at soemthing like 4.2 and WAS an olympian, graham ran a 4.4 and I still dont get how that was so special.
Manther Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 On 2017-12-10 at 8:04 PM, Real McCoy said: It's pretty crazy how Great a WR core we had here, Add Clay and McCoy to the mix = just scary good. Watkins Woods Goodwin Hogan Clay McCOy Looks legit now. It was solid to very good. And, people thought Whaley sucked. People thought Whaley didn't have a plan. He did, it was just different than McD's and he probably struggled to explain his plan....but, it was to acquire talent and playmakers. IMO Whaley would have succeeded if he picked his HC. I also think McBeane will succeed. There is more than one way to do things. The best plan is one that is executed. McBeane will have the opportunity to execute their plan. Whaley didn't have that opportunity due to lacking a HC he picked for HIS vision. Go Bills! 1
boyst Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 28 minutes ago, re enlightener said: how much fater, goodwin had the faster 40 at soemthing like 4.2 and WAS an olympian, graham ran a 4.4 and I still dont get how that was so special. When you look at track times grahams PRs were significantly faster. I did a study years ago on it based on curiousity. Grahams collegiate times and high school times to Goodwin's. Graham was faster in all 60m, 100m, 200m. It took a few hours scouring results pages. 40 yard dash time is a joke anyway, most pros ran faster in high school than college. Being an Olympic long jumper doesn't require speed. 1
Boatdrinks Posted December 18, 2017 Posted December 18, 2017 He's a kneeling POS and I'm glad he's gone. Just my opinion. He got his head out of his arse and saved his NFL career. He was disinterested when with BUF.
EmotionallyUnstable Posted December 18, 2017 Posted December 18, 2017 Good for Glass. I hope he stays healthy. I always enjoy seeing former players succeed. (especially in the NFC) He seems like a really good person and I wish him the best
Big C Posted December 18, 2017 Posted December 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: He's a kneeling POS and I'm glad he's gone. Just my opinion. He got his head out of his arse and saved his NFL career. He was disinterested when with BUF. http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/marquise-goodwin-cerebral-palsy-bills-fan-video/lk6hhjer0iae1amtgs6a5hrl9 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/QTP_170825MarquiseGoodwinMakeAWish/just-know-got-lot-people-love-you Yeah. A real POS. 1
Pbomb Posted December 18, 2017 Posted December 18, 2017 Was hurt here a lot but also seemed more concerned with the Olympics. Now seems to be concentrating on football
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