John from Riverside Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 Cleveland is where promising head office people go to die like Florida
26CornerBlitz Posted December 8, 2017 Author Posted December 8, 2017 Browns owner: Finding QB is Dorsey's No.1 priority Quote The Cleveland Browns' firing of Sashi Brown and hiring of John Dorsey on Thursday was one of the quickest front office turnarounds in league history. In his introductory news conference Friday, Dorsey made it clear that Cleveland's franchise turnaround won't be as swift. At least not until they find a quarterback. "Let's sit down as a group [at the end of the season]," Dorsey said of Cleveland's QB quagmire. "This is a quarterback-driven league. We all know that and we all know, to succeed and to go a little bit farther and farther and farther, you need one of those guys. So I think it's an evaluation period that's going to take a little bit to put a plan together. "The draft is four and a half months away. Free agency is three months away. We have ample time to make a plan here."
Peter Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: They are less well positioned than they would be if they had just picked Carson Wentz or Deshaun Watson. Fact. Punting on getting a franchise QB doesn't work. I get what you are saying but this is so EASY to say in retrospect. Ask Washington fans what they think about everything they gave up to get RGIII or Jaguar fans about not "punting" on Blake Bortles. This list of all of the QBs taken in the first round is interesting to look at in retrospect: https://pro32.ap.org/Star-Herald/article/list-qbs-selected-first-round-nfl-draft-2000
SaviorPeterman Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 Despite KC letting Dorsey go, he did yeoman's work in KC and built a hell of a roster there. Certainly a more proven commodity than Beane and I would take him over Beane in Buffalo in a heartbeat. No way the Browns are passing on a QB this year with the #1 overall pick and they have a lot of picks to work with and get that team heading in the right direction. This is why I still think all the talk about us trading up and taking a franchise QB is a fantasy because all the top ones will be long gone before any team is willing to deal with us. 1
PIZ Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: Despite KC letting Dorsey go, he did yeoman's work in KC and built a hell of a roster there. Certainly a more proven commodity than Beane and I would take him over Beane in Buffalo in a heartbeat. No way the Browns are passing on a QB this year with the #1 overall pick and they have a lot of picks to work with and get that team heading in the right direction. This is why I still think all the talk about us trading up and taking a franchise QB is a fantasy because all the top ones will be long gone before any team is willing to deal with us. According to this mock, there should be several available. We could trade up to #8 and get Darnold. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-mock-draft-cowboys-falcons-add-wr-speed-with-ridley-burnett/
John from Riverside Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, PIZ said: According to this mock, there should be several available. We could trade up to #8 and get Darnold. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-mock-draft-cowboys-falcons-add-wr-speed-with-ridley-burnett/ If Sam Darnold dropped that far we should def move up
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 9 minutes ago, PIZ said: According to this mock, there should be several available. We could trade up to #8 and get Darnold. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-mock-draft-cowboys-falcons-add-wr-speed-with-ridley-burnett/ that mock makes me wanna vomit
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 25 minutes ago, SaviorPeterman said: Despite KC letting Dorsey go, he did yeoman's work in KC and built a hell of a roster there. Certainly a more proven commodity than Beane and I would take him over Beane in Buffalo in a heartbeat. No way the Browns are passing on a QB this year with the #1 overall pick and they have a lot of picks to work with and get that team heading in the right direction. This is why I still think all the talk about us trading up and taking a franchise QB is a fantasy because all the top ones will be long gone before any team is willing to deal with us. They have won 1 game in 2 years. I think it's hard to say they're heading in the right direction. Do you honestly think that they won't screw up this QB pick?
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Peter said: I get what you are saying but this is so EASY to say in retrospect. Ask Washington fans what they think about everything they gave up to get RGIII or Jaguar fans about not "punting" on Blake Bortles. This list of all of the QBs taken in the first round is interesting to look at in retrospect: https://pro32.ap.org/Star-Herald/article/list-qbs-selected-first-round-nfl-draft-2000 I'd still defend both decisions. They were the right thing to do. Tannehill and Manziel and Ponder and EJ and Weeden I defend less because they were always reachea to me but Bortles and RGIII I'd have taken my chances on. It might not have worked out but the process was right in both cases.
boyst Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 4 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Don't worry... everyone knows who you are amidst your tears... I don't get that reference. I probably am not taking it as seriously as you. But, hey, you do you
Peter Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 20 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I'd still defend both decisions. They were the right thing to do. Tannehill and Manziel and Ponder and EJ and Weeden I defend less because they were always reachea to me but Bortles and RGIII I'd have taken my chances on. It might not have worked out but the process was right in both cases. If you did not lose me already, you definitely lost me once you invoked the "process."
Real McClappy Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, joesixpack said: that mock makes me wanna vomit Same here. Typical Billsy thing to do though right taking a LB and DT with 2 first rounders? Edited December 8, 2017 by Real McCoy
keepthefaith Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 21 hours ago, Bangarang said: Proof that you can fire coaches and GMs nearly every year and people will still line up for the vacancies Yeah, several million a year even if you're canned is a pretty good deal.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 21 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Nah. Nobody wanted this job. It’s almost like an expansion team.
simool Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 21 hours ago, aceman_16 said: I think this is a decent hire. I was more than surprised KC canned him. I definitely was as well. Andy Reid is going to mortgage the Queefs future, ultimately getting canned. About the time Reid gets canned, Browns will be turning the corner.
Mat68 Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 3 hours ago, SaviorPeterman said: Despite KC letting Dorsey go, he did yeoman's work in KC and built a hell of a roster there. Certainly a more proven commodity than Beane and I would take him over Beane in Buffalo in a heartbeat. No way the Browns are passing on a QB this year with the #1 overall pick and they have a lot of picks to work with and get that team heading in the right direction. This is why I still think all the talk about us trading up and taking a franchise QB is a fantasy because all the top ones will be long gone before any team is willing to deal with us. 49ers. I dont care who you are. 2 firsts in 2018 and another in 19 turns alot of heads. Jimmy g makes Buffalo viable to trade up. They have alot of holes and 2 first rounders fills those. The picks from chicago would alllow them to move back up if they wanted a player.
K D Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 If I'm the #1 QB coming out in the draft I am telling my agent to let the Browns know that there is absolutely no way I am signing with them so don't waste the draft pick. NY Giants would be an ideal landing spot. That's exactly how they got Eli and it worked out well for everyone involved 1
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