DC Tom Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 12:44 AM, Justice said: For someone that is supposed to be intelligent you sure can be dumb AF at times. You think they didn’t know about Trump’s announcement beforehand? They knew and they knew what the reaction would be and they prepared for it. That wasn’t hard now was it? Expand 1) I doubt Trump even knew about Trump's announcement beforehand. He's an idiot. 2) Even if that were true, it still wouldn't make Israel the aggressor...since their actions are still a reaction to rocket attacks. A planned response is still a response.
Justice Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 1:07 AM, DC Tom said: 1) I doubt Trump even knew about Trump's announcement beforehand. He's an idiot. 2) Even if that were true, it still wouldn't make Israel the aggressor...since their actions are still a reaction to rocket attacks. A planned response is still a response. Expand I didn’t say they were now did I?
DC Tom Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 1:09 AM, Justice said: I didn’t say they were now did I? Expand Which is why I asked the original question. Your statement that Israel was "preparing" could have been taken many ways, one of which was that any evidence of forethought by the Israelis is evidence of aggression by the Israelis. And that is a strikingly common interpretation of any Israeli action. You wouldn't have to look hard to find it in this case - somewhere, I'm sure, is claiming the Palestinians are suffering unprovoked attacks by Israel for the crime of defending themselves against Israel (by launching rockets in response to bloviating from the Candied-Yam-In-Chief.)
westerndecline Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) On 12/9/2017 at 12:54 AM, meazza said: And how did they prepare for it? They literally attack each other every 3-4 months. This wasn’t unexpected but neither will the next time or the one after that. Dont want it to happen ? Don’t fire rockets into Israel from Gaza. Expand But displacement of a Million ppl is ok. The Zionist song and dance is extremely tiresome Do u ppl not get it. They aren't welcome as a purist ethnic state. On 12/9/2017 at 1:07 AM, DC Tom said: 1) I doubt Trump even knew about Trump's announcement beforehand. He's an idiot. 2) Even if that were true, it still wouldn't make Israel the aggressor...since their actions are still a reaction to rocket attacks. A planned response is still a response. Expand For 80 years I beat up your family, take ur ****. U react, and I call it aggressive Edited December 9, 2017 by westerndecline
Justice Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 1:29 AM, westerndecline said: But displacement of a Million ppl is ok. The Zionist song and dance is extremely tiresome Do u ppl not get it. They aren't welcome as a purist ethnic state. For 80 years I beat up your family, take ur ****. U react, and I call it aggressive Expand Don’t even waste your time, bro. The same ppl you call racist are the ones that call you an anti-Semite. They fail to see the hypocrisy in that and even take offense to it. There are no good guys and bad guys when it comes to government. There’s only bad. Ours, theirs, it makes no difference. On 12/9/2017 at 1:14 AM, DC Tom said: Which is why I asked the original question. Your statement that Israel was "preparing" could have been taken many ways, one of which was that any evidence of forethought by the Israelis is evidence of aggression by the Israelis. And that is a strikingly common interpretation of any Israeli action. You wouldn't have to look hard to find it in this case - somewhere, I'm sure, is claiming the Palestinians are suffering unprovoked attacks by Israel for the crime of defending themselves against Israel (by launching rockets in response to bloviating from the Candied-Yam-In-Chief.) Expand When you do insightful things you tend to get a reaction. As for who the aggressor is I guess that’s in the eye of the beholder.
DC Tom Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 1:39 AM, Justice said: Don’t even waste your time, bro. The same ppl you call racist are the ones that call you an anti-Semite. They fail to see the hypocrisy in that and even take offense to it. There are no good guys and bad guys when it comes to government. There’s only bad. Ours, theirs, it makes no difference. When you do insightful things you tend to get a reaction. As for who the aggressor is I guess that’s in the eye of the beholder. Expand "Inciteful." And "aggressor" is not really in the eye of the beholder. Whoever holds the initiative - chooses and/or controls the time, place, and means of conflict - is the aggressor. In asymmetric conflict, that is always the weaker side - the Palestinians, in this case. You can argue whether or not it's morally justified, but they are objectively the aggressors. It also means this will never end until the Palestinians end it. Because they hold all the initiative.
Justice Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 1:50 AM, DC Tom said: "Inciteful." And "aggressor" is not really in the eye of the beholder. Whoever holds the initiative - chooses and/or controls the time, place, and means of conflict - is the aggressor. In asymmetric conflict, that is always the weaker side - the Palestinians, in this case. You can argue whether or not it's morally justified, but they are objectively the aggressors. It also means this will never end until the Palestinians end it. Because they hold all the initiative. Expand I can’t disagree more. What you’re suggesting is to eat **** and on top of that be grateful for it.
westerndecline Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 I'm !@#$IN DONE WITH THIS POST. If you're hell bent on a Jewish state, like Harris says, plenty of room in British Columbia. In fact they'd probably give u the damn land... Ww3 or Canada Jews??? So retarded
DC Tom Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 1:54 AM, Justice said: I can’t disagree more. What you’re suggesting is to eat **** and on top of that be grateful for it. Expand No, I'm not. I'm suggesting that aggression can be morally justified. That's just a conversation you're too weak to have.
Justice Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 2:09 AM, DC Tom said: No, I'm not. I'm suggesting that aggression can be morally justified. That's just a conversation you're too weak to have. Expand No. I’m not. I’m way more qualified seeing that I’m of Palestinian decent and visited there often. You live in this cozy lil country of ours and think just because you read a few books and watch the news you think you know, but you don’t. You have no clue.
3rdnlng Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 1:54 AM, Justice said: I can’t disagree more. What you’re suggesting is to eat **** and on top of that be grateful for it. Expand What side initiates each "skirmish"?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) On 12/9/2017 at 2:07 AM, westerndecline said: I'm !@#$IN DONE WITH THIS POST. If you're hell bent on a Jewish state, like Harris says, plenty of room in British Columbia. In fact they'd probably give u the damn land... Ww3 or Canada Jews??? So retarded Expand You really are a bag of dicks aren’t you? Anyone who sides with Arabs and isn’t an Arab is a neo-quisling Jew hater. Period. Deny it all you like you are what you are. Bigot. Edited December 9, 2017 by joesixpack
westerndecline Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 2:32 AM, joesixpack said: You really are a bag of dicks aren’t you? Anyone who sides with Arabs and isn’t an Arab is a neo-quisling Jew hater. Period. Deny it all you like you are what you are. Bigot. Expand I'm going to the bar to get drunk and hopefully laid. I suggest u do the same dumbass 1
Justice Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 2:32 AM, 3rdnlng said: What side initiates each "skirmish"? Expand You can answer that question, but first try to imagine for a moment you’ve been defeated, your land stripped and also stripped of your dignity and honor, your house demolished, constant checkpoints, further land grabbing for illegally developed settlements, your water stolen, bury your loved ones etc etc etc imagine that then answer your own question. 2
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 3:01 AM, Justice said: You can answer that question, but first try to imagine for a moment you’ve been defeated, your land stripped and also stripped of your dignity and honor, your house demolished, constant checkpoints, further land grabbing for illegally developed settlements, your water stolen, bury your loved ones etc etc etc imagine that then answer your own question. Expand Yeah... It'd make people wanna fight and !@#$. Try to grab some control in their life and bring new offspring into the fold to over power the oppressor state and carry on the fight for generations. It's the only control they have: populate. Perish without reproducing is fighting in vain.
3rdnlng Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 3:01 AM, Justice said: You can answer that question, but first try to imagine for a moment you’ve been defeated, your land stripped and also stripped of your dignity and honor, your house demolished, constant checkpoints, further land grabbing for illegally developed settlements, your water stolen, bury your loved ones etc etc etc imagine that then answer your own question. Expand What has it gotten them so far?
Justice Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 3:09 AM, 3rdnlng said: What has it gotten them so far? Expand Nothing but more pain and suffering. Like I’ve said before I’m all for a one state solution with equal rights. If I were them I’d give up the fight. Demand equal rights. Then and only then will they get their own state.
DC Tom Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 2:16 AM, Justice said: No. I’m not. I’m way more qualified seeing that I’m of Palestinian decent and visited there often. You live in this cozy lil country of ours and think just because you read a few books and watch the news you think you know, but you don’t. You have no clue. Expand Yes, you are. You're completely lacking in any objectivity on the subject that would allow you to discuss that suggestion. You've just demonstrated that, in fact.
/dev/null Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 2:16 AM, Justice said: I’m way more qualified seeing that I’m of Palestinian decent Expand On 12/8/2017 at 10:29 PM, westerndecline said: You're not considered a real Jewish citizen by simply converting.... Regardless, pure ethnic, racial, religious, or a combination for nationalist agendas is hateful, and a past we all are trying to get past. Expand You mean kinda like how a Cuban from Miami representing a heavily Latino district was denied membership in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus because he is not a member of the Democrat party? 1
westerndecline Posted December 9, 2017 Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 5:56 AM, DC Tom said: Yes, you are. You're completely lacking in any objectivity on the subject that would allow you to discuss that suggestion. You've just demonstrated that, in fact. Expand There is no objectivity .... They both think God is a real estate broker They're both guilty in that respect The Jews basically stuck their dick in crazy, and they keep !@#$in her On 12/9/2017 at 1:28 PM, /dev/null said: You mean kinda like how a Cuban from Miami representing a heavily Latino district was denied membership in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus because he is not a member of the Democrat party? Expand Yea basically Lol
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