Happy Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 I think McCoy stays. There are enough positions on this team that needs an upgrade, shouldn't have to needlessly create another.
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: I think McCoy stays. There are enough positions on this team that needs an upgrade, shouldn't have to needlessly create another. Their plan seems to believe in the opposite. They love creating holes.
Happy Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Their plan seems to believe in the opposite. They love creating holes. I hear ya...holes they believe are worth creating. Next summer we'll see if they're right about it.
NoSaint Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: A lot of people think it's a forgone conclusion that shady is gone after this season. That he will be shipped away I don't subscribe to that for a number of reasons. First, he has bought in to the process. He is a leader on the team and he is one of the few motivators we have on the roster We also do not have any stable QB play potentially going into next year. A new rookie QB or TT without Shady will not be pretty. Losing a top 5 back is never an addition. Shady gives a rookie or whoever a fall back and a safety blanket. Shady has 3-4 solid years left. This is when you ride him out. Get every single last carry and touch out of him until he has nothing left. Shady has embraced Buffalo and runs his tail off for us. Getting a third round pick for him is not worth it. He has been the only consistent 3 year bright spot for us on offense and he will help a young QB next year immensely . You don't trade away your most talented offensive player who shows up weekly He will I’ll be turning 30 at camp next year. Im open to bets about whether he has 4 seasons left. We are in the territory where you Red you have to look at getting his replacement sooner rather than later. We will see but I can’t imagine more than 1 more year. Maybe.
Buffalo716 Posted December 6, 2017 Author Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NoSaint said: He will I’ll be turning 30 at camp next year. Im open to bets about whether he has 4 seasons left. We are in the territory where you Red you have to look at getting his replacement sooner rather than later. We will see but I can’t imagine more than 1 more year. Maybe. Well he has personally said he wants to play 4-5 more years he also doesn't take many big hits compared to other Running backs. He is a very fresh 29. He also says that all the time Edited December 6, 2017 by Buffalo716
Doc Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He should have been traded instead of Sammy. Nope.
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Doc said: Nope. You're right. 30 year old rbs are much more valuable in today's NFL than 24 year old WRs. Shady is awesome but he is on the downside of his career and rbs are a lot easier to replace than WRs, see the 2017 Bills receiving core.
Utah John Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 When McCoy came to the Bills I was worried about the long-term impact, that he'd be a player on the decline and his expensive contract would handcuff the Bills. I'm glad I was wrong. He is a real leader and a strong competitor. He gets stopped in the backfield a lot but that's because the D knows our plays and shoots the gaps when our guys pull. He seldom fumbles (doh! did I say that? blame me for jinxing him) and he really puts forth the effort. A lot like Fred Jackson, but lighter and less able to take on tacklers for an extra yard, but also much more talented and elusive. But the same striving for success, and I admire that. The long-term, cold-blooded approach probably does say to trade him now in the offseason, and if that's to a contender (Philly?) we'd be doing him and that team a favor. But I would hate to see him go. He's the only watchable part of the O this year, and by far (except maybe Hauschka) our best player.
NoSaint Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Well he has personally said he wants to play 4-5 more years he also doesn't take many big hits compared to other Running backs. He is a very fresh 29. He also says that all the time Just saying he’s a very fresh 29 doesn’t magically make 2,500+ pro touches, another 650+ college touches, a major ankle injury in high school, a decade of blocking and simply 29 years on earth disappear He doesn’t have 5 years left. No matter how much he says it.
Buffalo716 Posted December 6, 2017 Author Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, NoSaint said: Just saying he’s a very fresh 29 doesn’t magically make 2,500+ pro touches, another 650+ college touches, a major ankle injury in high school, a decade of blocking and simply 29 years on earth disappear He doesn’t have 5 years left. No matter how much he says it. You can say that but I disagree i see a back that has 4-5 years left... he wants to go to canton... he needs to play 4-5 more years if he has a chance and he knows it. hes got a minimum of 3 good years left
NoSaint Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: You can say that but I disagree i see a back that has 4-5 years left... he wants to go to canton... he needs to play 4-5 more years if he has a chance and he knows it. hes got a minimum of 3 good years left Define good?
Buffalo716 Posted December 6, 2017 Author Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, NoSaint said: Define good? 1100 rushing yards 300-400 receiving yards 7-10 Total TDs
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 To be honest, I'm indifferent to this position. He's good but you can find a lot of running backs in the draft. If it makes more sense for them to keep him, that's great but also, if they can find a trade partner do it!
Lfod Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) I like Shady he's a real gamer. I just would rather have a guy running over people then dancing around them. The runs he breaks are nice when it happens. I never thought it was a foregone conclusion. I just think it's a possibility. I'd rather have a guy who can power through for a couple yards and break one sometimes then getting stuffed 3 plays in a row for no gain but breaks one out sometimes. It's just me wanting a power back bruiser then a shifty dude that gets stuffed because we have no o-line. We are run heavy and always end up 3rd and long. I love shady he's our star. I just have a preference and it's power running. So I wouldn't be shocked either way. Let's just make it past the line of scrimmage more often. I think Shady would be awesome in a balanced attack but not a guy I would lean on in a run first offence. Edited December 6, 2017 by Lfod
NoSaint Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: 1100 rushing yards 300-400 receiving yards 7-10 Total TDs Thats pretty bold to say he produces through AT LEAST 33, if not longer. And he needs far less than 4-5 years of that to be hall of fame. if he does that next year he’s roughly top 20 yards, 2 years is top 10 Edited December 6, 2017 by NoSaint
Buffalo716 Posted December 6, 2017 Author Posted December 6, 2017 Just now, NoSaint said: Thats pretty bold to say he produces through AT LEAST 33, if not longer. And he needs far less than 4-5 years if that to be hall of fame. if he does that next year he’s roughly top 20 yards, 2 years is top 10 Well I said atleast 3 good years... he said he wants to play 4-5 more and I believe it Barry Sanders retired at the top. He had so much more left. Now Shady isn't Barry but he is arguably the closest since... he is a remarkable athlete in great shape and I can see him rushing for 1000 yards at 32
yungmack Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 If I were him, my bags would be packed, the !imo would be idling, my furnishings would be on the moving truck as time runs out on the last game of the season. Why would anyone who could get out of this garbage dump situation stick around?
Gugny Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: He should have been traded when the value was high, if it still isn't. This team has nothing to lose. A massive do over is necessary. Totally agree and McCoy is my favorite current Bill. They need to get younger. Bills are doing nothing next year, either (it's the process and I !@#$ing love it). Why not get something for him while we can?
Ol Dirty B Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 4 hours ago, Gugny said: Totally agree and McCoy is my favorite current Bill. They need to get younger. Bills are doing nothing next year, either (it's the process and I !@#$ing love it). Why not get something for him while we can? It's not worth it. What will they get, a 5th round pick? It's the process and you love It? Care to show me how they've been getting younger because they haven't
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