JaCrispy Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, the skycap said: Like Deshaun Watson??? What was your view on Deshaun Watson?? Where did you have him graded?? What was Russell Wilson grade?? Why, because last year's Heisman winner is not good enough?? Yes, like Watson Quote
Bakin Posted December 15, 2017 Author Posted December 15, 2017 On 2017-12-10 at 8:22 PM, JaCrispy said: Maybe so, but I just prefer a more refined passer Runs a pro style offence. Passing numbers improved every year?? Quote
JaCrispy Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bakin said: Runs a pro style offence. Passing numbers improved every year?? Sorry....I just want a QB where running isn’t his best quality. Edited December 15, 2017 by JaCrispy Quote
Jay_Fixit Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 On 2017-12-10 at 5:31 AM, Johnny Hammersticks said: I agree the Mariota comparison is bad, but for the opposite reason. Jackson is a far better passer already than Mariota will ever hope to be. As much as it is becoming cliche, Lamar can make ALL the necessary NFL throws. Phenomenal arm. Nope. Quote
ghostwriter Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 No. I would not take him. Electrifying runner but will never be a great passer. I want a QB that beats you with his brain, not his legs. Quote
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 9 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said: Nope. Nope, what? What is your opinion jay_fitbit? Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted December 22, 2017 Posted December 22, 2017 Gunner, does Deshaun Watson Draft report sound similar to Lamar Jackson to you? https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-pff-scouting-report-deshaun-watson-qb-clemson Quote
Wayne Arnold Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 His lack of throwing accuracy consistency is disconcerting but if he's there with the Bills second 1st round pick then I think the Bills should pull the trigger. He's a freak athlete (even more so than Tyrod) and isn't close to reaching his full potential as a quarterback. 1 Quote
Billsfansinceday1 Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: His lack of throwing accuracy consistency is disconcerting but if he's there with the Bills second 1st round pick then I think the Bills should pull the trigger. He's a freak athlete (even more so than Tyrod) and isn't close to reaching his full potential as a quarterback. My thoughts exactly regarding his accuracy. I think we take a more NFL ready QB with our first pick like Mayfield or Rudolph. And there is pick #2 against Lamar today. Edited December 30, 2017 by Billsfansinceday1 Quote
H2o Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Hell to the no. Jackson is a phenomenal athlete. His position will be at WR if he is willing to make the switch. He IS NOT going to make it as a QB in the NFL. Quote
Wayne Arnold Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 And then he does that. Intriguing. Definitely has star potential. 'It' factor. Quote
Andrew Son Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 He’s a pretty good passer. People are going to be down on him for the picks in this bowl game, but that’s not normal for him. i like him. HUGE upside potential. Only concern is durability with running style. Quite a weapon. Quote
H2o Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: And then he does that. Intriguing. Definitely has star potential. 'It' factor. He has the 'it' factor, I agree. I also recognize the off the charts athleticism. I will still say he will not succeed at QB in the NFL. His mechanics are faulty along with his footwork at times. It makes him just not that accurate. People try to fix these things and more times than not it fails. If he willingly switches to WR then he has the potential to be the most successful to do so yet, more so than Edelman. He is a slightly taller clone of Tyrod, with a lower level of accuracy. He's not Vick reincarnate like some want to believe. Quote
BuffaloDave55 Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 Are you watching him in the Bowl game? A big thumbs down!!! Quote
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 On 12/10/2017 at 11:10 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said: I'll take this years Heisman ...Beane take Rudolph IMO............ Quote
Wayne Arnold Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, H2o said: He has the 'it' factor, I agree. I also recognize the off the charts athleticism. I will still say he will not succeed at QB in the NFL. His mechanics are faulty along with his footwork at times. It makes him just not that accurate. People try to fix these things and more times than not it fails. If he willingly switches to WR then he has the potential to be the most successful to do so yet, more so than Edelman. He is a slightly taller clone of Tyrod, with a lower level of accuracy. He's not Vick reincarnate like some want to believe. Don't be ridiculous. Jackson is miles better than Tyrod. Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...Beane take Rudolph IMO............ I wouldn't mind that at all. . Though Rudolph isn't a day 1 starter. 1 Quote
H2o Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Don't be ridiculous. Jackson is miles better than Tyrod. I wouldn't mind that at all. . Though Rudolph isn't a day 1 starter. He barely completes 60% of his passes in college, but he's miles better than Tyrod? Why? Because he's taller? Tyrod is just as electric scrambling around and showing his elusiveness at the NFL level as Lamar is in college. Tyrod is also more accurate in the NFL than Lamar is at the college level. Miles better? I think not my friend. Quote
Wayne Arnold Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 1 minute ago, H2o said: He barely completes 60% of his passes in college, but he's miles better than Tyrod? Why? Because he's taller? Tyrod is just as electric scrambling around and showing his elusiveness at the NFL level as Lamar is in college. Tyrod is also more accurate in the NFL than Lamar is at the college level. Miles better? I think not my friend. How many Heisman Trophies did Taylor win? Quote
H2o Posted December 30, 2017 Posted December 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: How many Heisman Trophies did Taylor win? I'm not disputing the fact that he is a great COLLEGE player. Tebow was a GREAT college player. What I am telling you is he doesn't have the skillset to make it at QB in the NFL. He is not Vick. He is not Deshaun Watson. His passing ability just isn't something to be desired. Again, exceptional athlete. Not an NFL QB. 1 Quote
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