Jobot Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 Anyone see the lateral that Wilson pulled off last night vs. the Eagles? Curious if anyone knows the rule well enough to confirm the following, and that can clarify what can be classified as a forward vs backward lateral. Let's get 'physic-y...' Russel Wilson was running full speed up field and then lateral'd the ball 'behind' him, however not with enough velocity for the true vector of the ball to continue in the 'forward' direction. Basically, if Russel Wilson standing still and made that same lateral, it would have 'looked' backwards and not confused the announcers... IMO this was a backward lateral, regardless of where the ball ended up.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 It was a backward pass since the Eagles didn't challenge it. It was a big enough play to throw the flag and have them look at it. Not sure why they didn't.
Dr. Who Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 The rule is if you are Seattle or Tennessee a marginally forward pass is a lateral. 1
Jobot Posted December 4, 2017 Author Posted December 4, 2017 NVM, google is a powerful tool. The ruling was correct. I think the word 'initially' is key. Article 1 Definition It is a forward pass if: (a) the ball initially moves forward (to a point nearer the opponent’s goal line) after leaving the passer’s hand(s); or
blacklabel Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 At game speed it looked like a legal lateral. When they slow things down and look at it, you see all sorts of different angles and such so it opens the situation up to a lot of questions. But at first look, and again, at game speed, it looked like it was a legal lateral. It's difficult to ascertain exactly what direction the ball went when you have two players carrying a bunch of forward momentum but the Eagles had time to look at it and challenge it and they didn't so I guess they felt it was legal as well.
Jobot Posted December 4, 2017 Author Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: The rule is if you are Seattle or Tennessee a marginally forward pass is a lateral. Tennessee was definitely forward. But they got it right last night based on this rule.
26CornerBlitz Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/the700level/nfl-rule-says-russell-wilsons-lateral-illegal-forward-pass
Dr. Who Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Jobot said: Tennessee was definitely forward. But they got it right last night based on this rule. Yes, I think so, but it's hard to make a joke with qualifiers in it
Mr. WEO Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: It was a backward pass since the Eagles didn't challenge it. It was a big enough play to throw the flag and have them look at it. Not sure why they didn't. This is true. If the other team doesn't bother challenging, then they agree with the call. Unless they are Rex Ryan. 1
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: http://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/the700level/nfl-rule-says-russell-wilsons-lateral-illegal-forward-pass The rule doesn’t care about angular momentum. RW threw it parallel or slightly backward, but since he was traveling forward as was the running back, the release happened further up field that the catch. It it would have been more obvious if RW stopped immediately.
Boatdrinks Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 Should have been challenged by PHI. The receiving p,Ayer caught the ball well ahead of the point that it was lateraled. Likely overturned by replay, and the outcome may have been different. Bad decision by the Eagles.
4merper4mer Posted December 4, 2017 Posted December 4, 2017 42 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: The rule is if you are Seattle or Tennessee a marginally forward pass is a lateral. Does the NE clause in this rule remove the word marginally?
26CornerBlitz Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 Neil deGrasse Tyson Has Takes on Russell Wilson's Lateral Quote One of the most controversial plays in the NFL weekend came during Russell Wilson's lateral to Mike Davis on Sunday. Was it a lateral or a forward pass? Neil deGrasse Tyson weighed in on the issue.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 6, 2017 Posted December 6, 2017 On 12/4/2017 at 12:38 PM, Dr. Who said: The rule is if you are Seattle or Tennessee a marginally forward pass is a lateral. I heard it but I didn't see it during the game (I was dozing off when it happened)
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