McD failed too many times

[LABILLBACKER]

11 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

So I suppose this is yet another call for a coaching change .... Please no, we don’t need to be Cleveland.  The D looked solid for the first half.  The Offense is a different story.  McDerrmott and Bean have at least one more season to get a draft in and move on from Tyrod Taylor.  Who knows maybe Peterman is the answer.  I’m guessing he will get the remainder of the season as an audition.

McD will be fine.  He'll send Dennison packing. Tyrod will be gone. Keep developing Peterman and draft a qb early. His next OC will be critical for his future. 

[NoSaint]

12 hours ago, fridge said:

My favorite blunder was the timeout he took with 2:04 after 3rd down.  The game was over so it didn't matter, but it was so wrong that it has me concerned.

 

I liked the timeout to kick a fg with like 12 secs left in the half a couple weeks ago

 

hes had a few real head scratchers 

[Nihilarian]

12 hours ago, Homey D. Clown said:

I'm not buying it.  I think he;s an excellent coach, the guys commit far less penalties, and the defense has played most of the year like they understand the scheme.  I can't believe people are trying to run the guy out already.  nonsense...

I agree with this! 

 

In the past, I have vehemently condemned Jauron ( for his firing his OC two weeks before the season started, cutting his starting RT at the same point because he couldn't get to the line quickly enough as the team was running the no-huddle offense!  Which they scrapped after two regular season games. BTW, that starting tackle went back to his old team and played the entire season.)

 

I Condemned Chan Gailey for selecting his "waterbug" RB with the first pick after the team had traded away their all-pro LT the year previous and was in desperate need at LT. This same man defended Trent Edwards all preseason as his starter only to cut him after two regular season games. He then went to Ryan Fitzpatrick who did his best Mike Vick impression by running for his life for the first six games as the team started the 2010 season 0-8.

 

Doug Marrone allowed his rookie first-round draft pick at QB to go into his first season with no QB coach or veteran QB on the roster and was supposed to learn the NFL ropes from an OC who had never been an NFL OC in his career. For an ex NFL line coach who was out on the field showing the O line players how to do their jobs, Marrone had a mess of an offensive line in his two seasons in Buffalo. Erik Pears at RG...really?

 

Rex Ryan was a bad/wrong hire as his last winning record as an HC was four years previous. He blamed all the losing on his QB and GM, who was drafting mostly defensive players at his request. This bozo went on to take one of the premier four-man fronts in the NFL and switch them to a 3-4 while asking his all-pro pass rushing D linemen to drop into pass coverage. 

 

These are just a brief synopsis of each HCs stupidity as I could easily go into greater detail of the morons who have been head coaches in Buffalo before McD. 

 

This is by far the best head coach the Bills have had since Wade Phillips and he has had to deal with what his predecessors left him. He now knows he needs a franchise QB and that Taylor isn't the answer. The really great thing is the Bills have an extra #1, #2 and #3 pick in the 2018 NFL draft and I can see the team trading away Glenn, Taylor for more picks. 

 

Give the man a chance to build the team in his vision going forward. 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

12 hours ago, Bill_with_it said:

This is complete and utter nonsense. That challenge was to hopefully get the refs to see the clear and ditinct intentional grounding. 

That's not even review-able so if that was what our Coach was hoping for we are in even worst shape.  

12 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

He has a team that is lacking talent in some areas in the playoff picture.  He has the team playing hard for him. 

The Jets are a team playing hard for their coach. They are one game back of us and are a team that is supposed to be lacking in talent even more than us. We've been blown out in four of our last five games. Jets have been blown out in one game all year.

[Big Turk]

Yawn

9 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

That's not even review-able so if that was what our Coach was hoping for we are in even worst shape.  

The Jets are a team playing hard for their coach. They are one game back of us and are a team that is supposed to be lacking in talent even more than us. We've been blown out in four of our last five games. Jets have been blown out in one game all year.

 

Quarterback..they are getting good quarterback play. Makes a big difference.

[Tcali]

9 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

That's not even review-able so if that was what our Coach was hoping for we are in even worst shape.  

The Jets are a team playing hard for their coach. They are one game back of us and are a team that is supposed to be lacking in talent even more than us. We've been blown out in four of our last five games. Jets have been blown out in one game all year.

Jets are a better team than we are.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 but perhaps later in the game if the same thing happened they might not call it the same way after reviewing that one. He said there wasn’t much downside to the challenge. 

LOL.  What are the odds of that happening again to Brady in the same game?

[fridge]

21 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

I liked the timeout to kick a fg with like 12 secs left in the half a couple weeks ago

 

hes had a few real head scratchers 

 

I forgot about that one.  This is all foreshadowing to the inevitable clock blunder he's going to make in a crucial game.

[Wayne Arnold]

7 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

This is by far the best head coach the Bills have had since Wade Phillips and he has had to deal with what his predecessors left him. He now knows he needs a franchise QB and that Taylor isn't the answer. The really great thing is the Bills have an extra #1, #2 and #3 pick in the 2018 NFL draft and I can see the team trading away Glenn, Taylor for more picks. 

 

Give the man a chance to build the team in his vision going forward. 

 

McDermott's game management is a serious concern.

 

I think McD is good from Monday to Saturday. Sunday? He has a lot of improvement to make if he's the man capable of bringing our Buffalo Bills back from the dead.

[DCBongo]

First time, first year HC.  Considering where we thought the team would be, where there are is much better.  McD has had a few head scratching moments, but he seems like a stand up guy who knows football.  I am more than happy to give him his contract and see what he and Beane can do.  I like "the process" so far, if not the results on the field.  I am excited to see what he will do with next year and this year is far from over.  Granted lose to the Colt or the Fish and its over, but right now, dream the dream.

[Koko78]

22 hours ago, The juice said:

Too many times this year with blunders in and out of game. Yesterday, the terrible challenge when Brady’s knee hit with NO ONE touching him. Disgusting 

 

McCoach was trying to get a flag for intentional grounding. Since you cannot challenge no-call penalties (or even called penalties), he had to challenge something. Everything is on the table when there's a challenge to a play, including whether or not a penalty should be assessed.

 

That isn't the call to complain about being terrible.

[ProcessTheTrust]

This is why I think talk of McBeane not reaching for their QB this year is nuts. These guys know without a real QB they won't last a full 3 years. Drafting a "franchise savior" will buy them time to prove if they can get it done or not. I like McD a lot but not enough to blindly say he will be our guy long term. Not sure yet.

[teef]

16 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

this is the way I look at it. I can not pass full judgement based off 12 games. blunders, mistakes, bad judgement comes with the learning process. hell, it started that way from infancy. you had to crawl before you could walk and fell many times picking up a bruise or two, then got back up.

 

 

a learning process. 

 

 

this guys feet are still wet, he's taking his bruises. 

 

you want to chastise him for his failures that's your right to do so and even warranted yet final judgement or any talks of firing is way too premature in my opinion.

 

this coming draft, the off season and the 2018 season one should be able to gain more leverage in judgement and at this point I can only say I hope he learns and develops in to a fine HC and the team looks to becoming a contender? 

 

I couldn't base it off this season, haven't seen enough yet. that and I realize this is a rebuild with a rookie HC to boot so it would be foolish of me to pass judgement at this juncture.

good post.  this is where i'm at with it too.

[klos63]

23 hours ago, dickleyjones said:

good or bad, the challenge had little to do with the loss.

true, but the lack of sound judgement for initiating the challenge is an issue, correctable, but an issue.

[BBills88]

Let the season play out. He is a rookie coach that has done more good than bad. He is not the reason we have a 17 year playoff drought. 

[klos63]

1 hour ago, DCBongo said:

First time, first year HC.  Considering where we thought the team would be, where there are is much better.  McD has had a few head scratching moments, but he seems like a stand up guy who knows football.  I am more than happy to give him his contract and see what he and Beane can do.  I like "the process" so far, if not the results on the field.  I am excited to see what he will do with next year and this year is far from over.  Granted lose to the Colt or the Fish and its over, but right now, dream the dream.

I thought we would be in the playoffs just based on having better coaching than the Ryans. Our defense is still subpar, offense got much worse. Special teams did improve. The big concern I have is that there will a huge turnover again this off season and we will need to hit on most of the draft picks and whatever FA's we convince to come here. They seem to want their own players along with no big contracts. They are doing this breakdown over 2 seasons when it should be done right away. Just drags the process out longer.

Edited December 5, 2017 by klos63

[Wayne Arnold]

1 hour ago, Koko78 said:

 

McCoach was trying to get a flag for intentional grounding. Since you cannot challenge no-call penalties (or even called penalties), he had to challenge something. Everything is on the table when there's a challenge to a play, including whether or not a penalty should be assessed.

 

That isn't the call to complain about being terrible.

 

Why did he have to challenge something?

 

He made a similar strange explanation after the game. He knows that you only get two challenges, I hope, right? Those challenges aren't free where you can just throw out the red flag willy nilly all game long.

 

"Yeah I just thought situationally I didn't...you know, you look at it and you say 'hey, I thought he dumped the ball a little bit there. And obviously, you know, the knee was down. And I thought situationally it was a - you know, I didn't see too much of a downside of doing it because we're already in that part of the game there in terms of the situation. So...I just wanted them to take a little bit longer to take a look at the entire, entire situation more than anything."

 

On the thought that he was trying to argue intentional grounding: "Nah, I mean again it's looking at the big picture. Sometimes - and again we talked about it on the field - those things move so fast for the guys out there. I wanted them to take a little longer to look at it. Any time you can get a quarterback like that behind the sticks it usually works to your advantage. And obviously we ended up forcing a punt there, so..."

 

[BillsFan130]

17 hours ago, CDogg20 said:

I didnt like the challenge either but I believe he was looking for a grounding call. You win some you lose some, gotta take chances especially when the Pats* pull their hustle to line bs. 

Why is hustling to the line b.s? That's smart coaching/QB play. I wish the Bills were smart enough to do that when there is a questionable call

Edited December 5, 2017 by billsfan11

[dickleyjones]

2 hours ago, klos63 said:

true, but the lack of sound judgement for initiating the challenge is an issue, correctable, but an issue.

i agree with you. i hope mcdermott can fix whatever their current challenge process is.

[Homey D. Clown]

3 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

You are easily impressed huh?

 

I don't understand the question in it's current context, but if you're asking me that this team full of gutless talent is at .500 and I am impressed that McD has gotten that much juice from a turd, then yes.  But I thought I made that clear.  Were you trying to be clever on the internet?