BillsFan130 Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 38 minutes ago, Domdab99 said: None of these QBs are worth trading up for. It's ridiculous. Both fronts need help , or get a stud LB - or if one of the QBs falls to them, fine...but do not give away a 1st round pick for one of these scrubs. How do you have any idea if those QBs are going to be scrubs? Are you the next up and coming quarterback whisperer in terms of scouting? Lol
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, nedboy7 said: Not covinced qb is our main problem. So don’t care whom they draft. The coaching has been bad for 4 weeks. No WR. No depth at many positions. Yeah switch TT and see the same show. Man, ned, when you're wrong, you're REALLY wrong. Coaching was just fine this past week. A bit conservative in the second half, but they seemingly addressed the defensive issues.
Captain Murica Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I hated the idea of Lamar Jackson for awhile, but, he seems to be more than another running quarterback. I just don't want to trade up for the guy.
Tatonka68 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Posted November 28, 2017 45 minutes ago, CarolinaBillsFan said: What if we signed for Bridgewater or Keenum? They cant keep them all, then we have all of our picks to plug holes. Enuf of the hand me down QB's and leftovers, can we get OUR guy.
Yav Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Heck with that go after Cousins and build the line and get some pass rushing help and LB's. 1
Tatonka68 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Yav said: Heck with that go after Cousins and build the line and get some pass rushing help and LB's. No thanks, enough of the hand me downs. If he was that great the Skins would keep him.
Yav Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 3 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: No thanks, enough of the hand me downs. If he was that great the Skins would keep him. He is very good, the Skins are just a messed up franchise that commits to crap and can't commit to solid players.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Don’t be surprised to see Josh Allen rocket up draft boards after the Senior Bowl and the combine. The kid has been playing with a sprained AC joint in his throwing shoulder for much of the season, and has absolutely no offensive line. His skills will shine through. I hope he stays under the radar as he has this season, but he likely won’t.
mannc Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 1 hour ago, 2003Contenders said: For a frame of reference, in 2016 the Eagles moved up from 8 to 2 (to take Wentz) by making the following trade with Cleveland: Philly gave up: #8 overall [2016] 3rd rounder (#77 overall) [2016] 4th rounder (#100 overall) [2016] the following year's first round pick [2017] third round pick in 2018 Cleveland gave up: #2 pick overall following year's 4th rounder [2017] That is a lot of picks to move up for a single player -- but the Bills do have the ammunition (if either Cleveland or the NY Giants are willing to make the move) to hypothetically acquire Rosen/Darnold. The blow was cushioned for the Eagles because they were able to recoup their 2017 First Rounder by unloading Bradford to the Vikings.
Tatonka68 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Posted November 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Yav said: He is very good, the Skins are just a messed up franchise that commits to crap and can't commit to solid players. Very good is not good enough for me, want holy schidt this guy is awesome. My bar is very high.
reddogblitz Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 33 minutes ago, ctk232 said: Too bad half the board disagrees with this and thinks we should trade away as many picks as possible and our firstborn child to grab a top QB....as if just drafting one in the top 5 guarantees he's the future solution Draft a QB in the top 5and sit back and watch the Lombardi's roll in
Tatonka68 Posted November 28, 2017 Author Posted November 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Draft a QB in the top 5and sit back and watch the Lombardi's roll in To bad half the board would settle for a hand me down QB and hope the Bills can win 10 games. I would rather win Rings myself. 1
thenorthremembers Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Love the logic that the 6'5 230 Quarterback prospect who has been mocked in the top five of the draft since the college football season started is suddenly being thought of as a 4th-5th round prospect despite throwing 26 more touchdowns than interceptions and winning 75% of his games. So sick of the argument around a quarterback being good or not centering around whether he has good wideouts or not. Deshaun Watson threw to multiple 1st-2nd round talents while at Clemson. Mason Rudolph will be a 1st round pick, 2nd at worst. I will go ahead and say I have no idea how good he will be in the NFL, nor do I know how Rosen, Jackson, Mayfield or Darnold will end up but if these guys are making informed decisions and not out smarting themselves Rudolph will go before the likes of Clayton Thorson and Josh Allen. Holy crap.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: Love the logic that the 6'5 230 Quarterback prospect who has been mocked in the top five of the draft since the college football season started is suddenly being thought of as a 4th-5th round prospect despite throwing 26 more touchdowns than interceptions and winning 75% of his games. So sick of the argument around a quarterback being good or not centering around whether he has good wideouts or not. Deshaun Watson threw to multiple 1st-2nd round talents while at Clemson. Mason Rudolph will be a 1st round pick, 2nd at worst. I will go ahead and say I have no idea how good he will be in the NFL, nor do I know how Rosen, Jackson, Mayfield or Darnold will end up but if these guys are making informed decisions and not out smarting themselves Rudolph will go before the likes of Clayton Thorson and Josh Allen. Holy crap. Dude people here are seriously clueless. I'd take Rudolph in a Bills jersey 7 days a week and three times on sunday. 1
Bangarang Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Don’t be surprised to see Josh Allen rocket up draft boards after the Senior Bowl and the combine. The kid has been playing with a sprained AC joint in his throwing shoulder for much of the season, and has absolutely no offensive line. His skills will shine through. I hope he stays under the radar as he has this season, but he likely won’t. A guy that doesn’t produce in college with all the “tools” these old guys drool over. I’d rather not.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: Very good is not good enough for me, want holy schidt this guy is awesome. My bar is very high. Your bar is high but you’d prefer trading up for Mason Rudolph to signing Kirk Cousins?!? 35 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: They did, and they will only have 11 million in cap space in 2018 according to spotrac. So in other words Lotulelei walks.
Wily Dog Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Do not forget the trade value of Cordy Glenn. A left tackle is almost as valuable as a QB in some circles . He can have surgery on his problem feet/ankles and he is relatively young for a tackle We have a LT with Dawkins.
Captain Murica Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Your bar is high but you’d prefer trading up for Mason Rudolph to signing Kirk Cousins?!? So in other words Lotulelei walks. Yup, that is with only 40 players on the active roster. Not a lot of cap room to play with.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Your bar is high but you’d prefer trading up for Mason Rudolph to signing Kirk Cousins?!? So in other words Lotulelei walks. And we pick him up. See how that works?
Kirby Jackson Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 Just now, joesixpack said: And we pick him up. See how that works? I think it’s a likely scenario. Beane and McDermott have shown an affinity for the guys in Carolina. He’s one that they drafted. We have a massive need at DT. It makes sense to me.
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