OldTimer1960 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Tyrod has been handicapped by injuries to Matthews an Benjamin, but he has surely underachieved with them and Clay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: For many teams, the receiver corps has a positive effect on the offense, ie making catches they probably shouldn't catch, route running, adjusting to broken plays. These guys have quite a negative impact. I don't think we properly take in this impact when we talk about quarterbacks. I call BS on this one!!! For E.J. Manuel, it was "blame the coaches". For Tyrod it is "blame the wide receivers and the OC". Enough is enough. Tyrod is incapable of utilizing WRs properly, ever. We let Watkins and Woods go thinking it was them and it was our BF QB. All they are doing is going to the playoffs. Get a real QB so we can evaluate our RECEIVERS properly!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, PeterGriffin said: Naw, I believe it's the QB who is not good. Lots of QB would love to throw to Clay, Matthews and Jones. And Kelvin Benjamin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said: Goodwin his already bested his best year in Buffalo stat wise and still has 4 games to go. All while having to catch balls from 3 different QBs in a new scheme. Do you know what's different about this year and others for him? There are 2 things, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: Buffalo is actually wide receiver purgatory. Because it’s qb hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: I call BS on this one!!! For E.J. Manuel, it was "blame the coaches". For Tyrod it is "blame the wide receivers and the OC". Enough is enough. Tyrod is incapable of utilizing WRs properly, ever. We let Watkins and Woods go thinking it was them and it was our BF QB. All they are doing is going to the playoffs. Get a real QB so we can evaluate our RECEIVERS properly!!!!! Evaluate Deonte Thompson and Holmes? AGAIN I'm not talking about just Tyrod lol, they routinely just make bad drops.. and that's just what we see on broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Evaluate Deonte Thompson and Holmes? AGAIN I'm not talking about just Tyrod lol, they routinely just make bad drops.. and that's just what we see on broadcast. We have had much better receivers BUT we have never had a much better QB, so I contend no matter WHO our receivers are, we will NEVER know how good we can be because our QBs always suck you know what... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Because it’s qb hell I don't think our WRs are amazing, but they are not trash either. When you look at the resume of Benjamin and Matthews, they have clearly established themselves as productive players. Clay is an average option at TE, and with time Zay may be good. It could be worse... Denver takes the field every week with 2 pro bowl receivers, but it doesn't matter much if you've got terrible QB play. Edited December 4, 2017 by TheElectricCompany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I don’t think that many QB’s could excel with this receiver corps. That doesn’t mean we can’t evaluate TT. The deficiencies in his game are apparent regardless. There are many things that NFL QB’s must do to win. TT is incapable of too many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said: Naw, I believe it's the QB who is not good. Lots of QB would love to throw to Clay, Matthews and Jones. Were you at the game today? It is a better “birds eye” view than what you can capture on TV. Many times I zeroed in on the receivers and not open at all. I am not saying TT is any good, but this receiving crop is pretty pedestrian right now. Sometimes I think we are missing that speed guy to take the top off- just my opinion thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Petey's turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 39 minutes ago, Gray Beard said: LIke when one of Peterman's first throws today hit his receiver in the belly and it was incomplete? That kind of negative impact? To be fair to Holmes, he was probably shocked to see such an accurate pass thrown to him during his route. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 We took a qb that needs explosive plays because he’s not great in the methodical middle of the field game- and then signed a WCO coordinator and got rid of all our explosive players for possession guys. The results were easily predictable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Wayne Arnold said: To be fair to Holmes, he was probably shocked to see such an accurate pass thrown to him during his route. lol, Holmes is still pretty bad to get as many snaps as he's been getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Evaluate Deonte Thompson and Holmes? AGAIN I'm not talking about just Tyrod lol, they routinely just make bad drops.. and that's just what we see on broadcast. Everybody is right in this one. Our QBs suck as do the WRs we are playing due to injury. Holmes and Thompson shouldn't be on an NFL roster. But we are close to being an elite team. All we need to do is draft 3 OL, 2 DL, 2 LBs, one speed receiver, a franchise QB, and a partridge in a pear tree. We're only half a team away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jigsaw2112 said: There are plenty of qb's in this league who could manage more than 60 yards with this group. Remember way, way back in, oh, August? Back when we were all laughing about how awful the Jets receiving corps would be this year? Right now Robby Anderson and Jermaine Kearse look a lot better than anyone we're putting on the field. And that's with 37 year old career journeyman Josh McCown throwing the ball. Are they really good? Or is Tyrod really that bad? I have to assume it's more of the latter. After all, Jordan Matthews was at least as effective as a Jermaine Kearse with his previous team and he's a couple years younger too ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: We took a qb that needs explosive plays because he’s not great in the methodical middle of the field game- and then signed a WCO coordinator and got rid of all our explosive players for possession guys. The results were easily predictable Sammy played in 13 games in 2015 and 8 games in 2016 and TT passed for just 3,000 yards in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Both Taylor and Peterman are lousy. I don’t care who is or isn’t playing WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Remember way, way back in, oh, August? Back when we were all laughing about how awful the Jets receiving corps would be this year? Right now Robby Anderson and Jermaine Kearse look a lot better than anyone we're putting on the field. And that's with 37 year old career journeyman Josh McCown throwing the ball. Are they really good? Or is Tyrod really that bad? I have to assume it's more of the latter. After all, Jordan Matthews was at least as effective as a Jermaine Kearse with his previous team and he's a couple years younger too ... Well, that's easy, it's because McCown is a lot better QB than Tyrod. 13 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Remember way, way back in, oh, August? Back when we were all laughing about how awful the Jets receiving corps would be this year? Right now Robby Anderson and Jermaine Kearse look a lot better than anyone we're putting on the field. And that's with 37 year old career journeyman Josh McCown throwing the ball. Are they really good? Or is Tyrod really that bad? I have to assume it's more of the latter. After all, Jordan Matthews was at least as effective as a Jermaine Kearse with his previous team and he's a couple years younger too ... Matthews has 33 targets after 10 games played this year. He never had less than 105 targets in Philly. Edited December 4, 2017 by PeterGriffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, PeterGriffin said: Well, that's easy, it's because McCown is a lot better QB than Tyrod. Correct. And that's the key point we learned this year. Case Keenum, Josh McCown >> Tyrod Taylor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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