westerndecline Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Will the collapse happen soon?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 How much fun do you think it will be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Well..................I hate to state the obvious, but perhaps someone who chose the name Westerndecline has their own thoughts on the collapse. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 you joined to just pose this question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 52 minutes ago, westerndecline said: Will the collapse happen soon?? Debt? Or theft? If we hold the thieves accountable and retake what's ours, there's more than enough money that's been stolen from us to repay that 20t and have a surplus. https://solari.com/blog/the-missing-money-19-trillion-in-undocumentable-adjustments-and-counting-with-dr-mark-skidmore/ The game has been afoot for over a century now. Edited November 30, 2017 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: you joined to just pose this question? No, he had an earlier post that was equally stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, DC Tom said: No, he had an earlier post that was equally stupid. Noted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, westerndecline said: Will the collapse happen soon?? Is it quicker to New York, or by bus? Did you walk to work, or take your lunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, westerndecline said: Will the collapse happen soon?? Define soon. Sooner than the Bills win a Super Bowl? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On our birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 What have I got in my pocket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerndecline Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 Any real solutions or is it past the tipping point Is it possible to out grow it or raise taxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, westerndecline said: Any real solutions or is it past the tipping point Is it possible to out grow it or raise taxes You left out one crucial alternative: cut spending. We'll never get rid of any debt without controlling how much we spend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerndecline Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Azalin said: You left out one crucial alternative: cut spending. We'll never get rid of any debt without controlling how much we spend. You would need to start with ss and Medicare, the two biggest budget items by far. How is this possible, how would you even replace it. I'm pretty much libertarian, but u can't just leave old ppl in shelters to die off can you? If you did an honest cut of government, and non productive institutions, you would see a catastrophic collapse What would happen after is not worth risking to see imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Raise the prime lending rate, it’s been held down against all business and common sense. Of course this may cause a large default on mortgage payments and burst the housing bubble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westerndecline Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 Cut almost all education, cut the military in half, 401k ss, make health care totally voluntary, end all bureaucracy like insurance and construction codes, registration for **** you already have the title too, no drug criminalization, etc. U would see 50% 60% unemployment..... Most people are useless like k-12 even college teachers as an example Stem and some security is really the only real producers of real economic growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, westerndecline said: You would need to start with ss and Medicare, the two biggest budget items by far. How is this possible, how would you even replace it. I'm pretty much libertarian, but u can't just leave old ppl in shelters to die off can you? If you did an honest cut of government, and non productive institutions, you would see a catastrophic collapse What would happen after is not worth risking to see imho You're no libertarian if that's what you believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 hours ago, westerndecline said: Any real solutions or is it past the tipping point Is it possible to out grow it or raise taxes Yes, both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Why do anything? BUY GOOOAAAAAALLLLLLLLD and ammo and enjoy the decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Get your car painted for $99, prices so low they must be cray-zeeeeeeeeeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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