leonbus23 Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 12 hours ago, Tatonka68 said: Looking at the rest of the Schedule the best the Bills can do is 9-7 with wins against the Colts and two against the Dolphins. The Ravens who now hold the last spot have games against the Lions, Steelers, Browns, Colts and Bengals. They should win at least against the Browns, Colts, Bengals and hold the tie breaker over Bills. So the Bills will not make the playoffs and drop in the draft. Typical. we know. Thank you.
aceman_16 Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Are we watching “ good football”? I think we have seen some good football - yes. Please dont twist good football with a good team. Also, to watch a team like the Browns, 49ers, Giants etc is brutal and often unwatchable and relative to those teams.... Buffalo has been playing good football. 1
Fadingpain Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 13 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Thanks for stating the already stated. One thing I've learned over the many years of the drought is that the rest of the games NEVER play out the way they might appear on paper. Of course, the other thing I've learned is that given the chance, the Bills will set themselves up only to lose to Miami in Week Seventeen. This.
Buffalo Boy Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 13 hours ago, aceman_16 said: I think we have seen some good football - yes. Please dont twist good football with a good team. Also, to watch a team like the Browns, 49ers, Giants etc is brutal and often unwatchable and relative to those teams.... Buffalo has been playing good football. Current O Rank points 22 yrds. 26 Pass yards 30 Rush yards 12 Current D Rank points 23 yards 25 pass yards 22 rush yards 21 only the rushing stats are in the second third of the league, all others are bottom third or lower, some much lower. There is no confusion on my part, seeing a TD from time to time and a lucky Turn over by the D might be exciting but Good Football this Most decidedly is not. The 49 era and Giants have recent past Good history, we do not. While not the Browns we are not a good organization, nor have been going on 2 decades. 1
aceman_16 Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Current O Rank points 22 yrds. 26 Pass yards 30 Rush yards 12 Current D Rank points 23 yards 25 pass yards 22 rush yards 21 only the rushing stats are in the second third of the league, all others are bottom third or lower, some much lower. There is no confusion on my part, seeing a TD from time to time and a lucky Turn over by the D might be exciting but Good Football this Most decidedly is not. The 49 era and Giants have recent past Good history, we do not. While not the Browns we are not a good organization, nor have been going on 2 decades. Look I can get cute too with stats.... here were Buffalo's stats from earlier this year: Offense Passing: 174.0 (29) Rushing: 111.3 (12) Total: 285.3 (26) Scoring: 16.7 (25) Turnovers: 1 (t-1) Third down conversion rate: 39.1% (15) Defense Passing: 203.0 (9) Rushing: 75.3 (7) Total: 278.3 (6) Scoring: 12.3 (1) Takeaways: 4 (t-9) As you can with numerical proof (as similarly offered by you) nearly EVERY category is in the top 1/3 of the league. These numbers (to me) decidely show the Bills have played some good football at some point of the year. I can cherry pick better rnumbers to present. IF you want you can go back to previous game posts and take a general consensus that during the 5 and 2 run people generally felt like good football was being played (even though flawed). Go further and check out the Giants, 49ers and the Brown's board if you wish. Edited November 30, 2017 by aceman_16
Buffalo Boy Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: Look I can get cute too with stats.... here were Buffalo's stats from earlier this year: Offense Passing: 174.0 (29) Rushing: 111.3 (12) Total: 285.3 (26) Scoring: 16.7 (25) Turnovers: 1 (t-1) Third down conversion rate: 39.1% (15) Defense Passing: 203.0 (9) Rushing: 75.3 (7) Total: 278.3 (6) Scoring: 12.3 (1) Takeaways: 4 (t-9) As you can with numerical proof (as similarly offered by you) nearly EVERY category is in the top 1/3 of the league. These numbers (to me) decidely show the Bills have played some good football at some point of the year. I can cherry pick better rnumbers to present. IF you want you can go back to previous game posts and take a general consensus that during the 5 and 2 run people generally felt like good football was being played (even though flawed). Go further and check out the Giants, 49ers and the Brown's board if you wish. If you run a mile race and lead for the first third but ultimately end in the bottom half, was it a good race?
aceman_16 Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Yes IF you predicted before the race you were going to fall and trip at the starting line and were aiming at "next year." 1
SaviorPeterman Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/29/2017 at 6:06 AM, Tatonka68 said: Looking at the rest of the Schedule the best the Bills can do is 9-7 with wins against the Colts and two against the Dolphins. The Ravens who now hold the last spot have games against the Lions, Steelers, Browns, Colts and Bengals. They should win at least against the Browns, Colts, Bengals and hold the tie breaker over Bills. So the Bills will not make the playoffs and drop in the draft. Typical. It's very typical indeed and going 9-7 and missing the playoff does nothing but hurt this franchise in terms of draft position and sell more false hope heading into 2018. Ravens defense is legit and if they beat the Lions this week they are definitely getting into the playoffs and probably only losing one more game (at Pit). And still think Jax and Ten are locks just still TBD in terms of who wins the AFCS and who gets one of the WC spots. Just wish this team would have truly tanked this year so they could control their own destiny with a top 3 draft pick instead of pretending they were good enough for the playoffs.
teef Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 if the bills win 9 games with this roster, i see it as a success. not that it helps the bills in any way, but it could be a great indication that we have extremely solid coaching. i still won't know what to think about this staff until after draft.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/29/2017 at 9:53 AM, Royale with Cheese said: Seriously. I think the Jets crush them this week...beat them by two scores. KC offense is just terrible right now and the Jets defense will give them more problems. I think the Chargers roll them too. Dolphins, Raiders and Broncos are the other last 3. I think the Broncos is the only game where they should handle. It's a toss up between the Raiders and Dolphins. 8-8 I believe would get us in the top 10. This is a Chiefs team that has lost 5 of 6 and one of those teams was the Giants. They might even finish worse than 8-8 with they way they are playing. Luck threw 31 TD's last year with 4,200 yards passing. Fine - lucks great. He was so great they went 8-8.
Royale with Cheese Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 9 minutes ago, dneveu said: Fine - lucks great. He was so great they went 8-8. You're blaming Luck for Indy's problems?
Buffalo Boy Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, aceman_16 said: Yes IF you predicted before the race you were going to fall and trip at the starting line and were aiming at "next year." If losing the race this year set you up to possibly win it for the next 10+ years, I think there is a logic to that.
Ol Dirty B Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/29/2017 at 1:21 PM, Boatdrinks said: The Bills had no draft " status " to begin with, as they are not CLE or SF. Target the right QB , and do what is necessary to draft him. If draft status was the gold standard, the Browns would be ruling the NFL landscape right now. That couldn't be further from the truth, obviously. Don't make the mistakes that past regimes have. It's really that simple. They will end up where they end up. The Browns, who keep passing on top Qbs and drafting high are a convenient but not really accurate example. It's also convenient to leave out the Rams and Eagles, how did they turn it around?
Luka Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Drafting high only ensures you have more to choose from, does not mean whoever you pick will be great just because you drafted them high.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: You're blaming Luck for Indy's problems? YEAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING ROSTER CAP HIT DEAD CAP 2016 27 $12,000,000 $6,400,000 - $18,400,000 $44,000,000 2017 28 $7,000,000 $6,400,000 $6,000,000 $19,400,000 $41,600,000 2018 29 $12,000,000 $6,400,000 $6,000,000 $24,400,000 $22,200,000 POTENTIAL OUT: 2019, 3 YR, $75,000,000; $12,800,000 DEAD CAP 2019 30 $9,125,000 $6,400,000 ######### $27,525,000 $12,800,000 2020 31 $11,000,000 $6,400,000 ######### $28,400,000 $6,400,000 2021 32 $11,000,000 - ######### $21,000,000 -
Max Fischer Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 So, you want them to lose all five? I'm confused.
Royale with Cheese Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, dneveu said: YEAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING ROSTER CAP HIT DEAD CAP 2016 27 $12,000,000 $6,400,000 - $18,400,000 $44,000,000 2017 28 $7,000,000 $6,400,000 $6,000,000 $19,400,000 $41,600,000 2018 29 $12,000,000 $6,400,000 $6,000,000 $24,400,000 $22,200,000 POTENTIAL OUT: 2019, 3 YR, $75,000,000; $12,800,000 DEAD CAP 2019 30 $9,125,000 $6,400,000 ######### $27,525,000 $12,800,000 2020 31 $11,000,000 $6,400,000 ######### $28,400,000 $6,400,000 2021 32 $11,000,000 - ######### $21,000,000 - You’re right. There has never been a high salaried QB that has ever been successful. Its not Indy’s drafts, Irsay, Pagano, Grigson etc....
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: You’re right. There has never been a high salaried QB that has ever been successful. Its not Indy’s drafts, Irsay, Pagano, Grigson etc.... I find him to be overrated - jmo. I guess tanking kinda sorta worked for them... But i don't think the guy wins a super bowl in Indy.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: You're blaming Luck for Indy's problems? ....makes PERFECT sense, doesn't it?.....top notch ownership, a stellar GM (former) in Grigson who the Browns now hired (VALUE), a formidable OL (COUGH) and a solid run game....ALL fingers obviously point to Luck.....I have 29 grand in the glove box and a whole bunch of pills if that helps....
HOUSE Posted November 30, 2017 Posted November 30, 2017 Like it or not peterman is the man. don't blame me
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