Gameday thread - Bills and Chiefs 2nd half

[mannc]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

 

He played AVG. lets not make it any more than it was. 

Avg is a huge step up from what we got from the position last week.

[unclepete]

5 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

**PROOF**

Again, it's the DEFENSE that is responsible for our wins this season. They win IN SPITE of Tyrod. The offense tried their best to lose this game, the coaches don't trust Tyrod worth a crap, and the DEFENSE came through (as they did in our 5 previous wins).

Also, with a competent QB this team will be deadly. Our O-line played like champs today. Tyrod had all day to throw.

 

 

Tyrod played well. Not sure why no one wants to give him credit. He’s competent. Average

[Mantis]

4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Anybody else screaming get the !@#$ down over and over after that pick?

Absolutely!

[Bing Bong]

4 minutes ago, BernieBill said:

Tyrod Taylor is still a horrible NFL quarterback.

Do you ever watch other quarterbacks in the NFL?

[MAJBobby]

Just now, mannc said:

Avg is a huge step up from what we got from the position last week.

 

And his other games like Cincy Car and Saints

[dave mcbride]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

 

He played AVG. lets not make it any more than it was. 

I’d say slightly above average, but I’m not going to argue about it. It was classic Taylor, for better or worse. Regardless, the playcalling in the second half was ridiculously bad. The hold on Dawkins (who played really well) was really bad.

[Lfod]

I just hope  moving forward if the team has a chance to bleed clock that should be a priority. That should be a focus.

 

If you are going to run and get stuffed anyway then I say be more aggressive and take shots.

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, Nitro said:

He is smoking the whacky weed.  The O line was horrid for huge stretches.

It was good pass blocking for the most part...Taylor had a lot of time

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said:

No he didn't play well.  He is average.  He won't lose the game but he won't win it.  He makes that O'leary pass, that game is over before all of that excitement at the end...Dennison doesn't help but he had his opportunities

 

You focus on a 14 yard completion on a 2nd and 16 as the primary reason we almost lost? Some of you guys should really watch more football. QBs miss wide open receivers all the time. That isn’t even Tyrod’s issue, it’s not throwing the ball on time that he struggles with. Overall he is pretty accurate with the ball and sometimes he throws dimes like the deep throw to Zay that he just couldn’t get enough separation on. Dennison is far and away the biggest problem on offense, more than any one player.

[Helpmenow]

Only the refs would make a horrible call in the game where the bills were outplaying the chiefs.

[Doc Brown]

Just now, Helpmenow said:

Only the refs would make a horrible call in the game where the bills were outplaying the chiefs.

As opposed to the other people that throw flags?

[HappyDays]

Just now, Helpmenow said:

Only the refs would make a horrible call in the game where the bills were outplaying the chiefs.

 

What was the worse call, the phantom penalty or Dennison’s pitch play on 3rd and 2? Hard to choose.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...one helluva statement.....in a tough venue, three ugly losses in a row, QB experiments, and to come out with a "W"?.....build on it...............

[dave mcbride]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said:

No he didn't play well.  He is average.  He won't lose the game but he won't win it.  He makes that O'leary pass, that game is over before all of that excitement at the end...Dennison doesn't help but he had his opportunities

If dawkins doesn’t hold that game is over. Cadet had that run clear away even if dawkins dowsn’t hold.

 

the pass to o’leary wasn’t perfect but it wasn’t that bad. Jordan matthews caught an even lower pass and didn’t go to the ground. Some of that is on o’leary. It was lower than you’d like but it wasn’t THAT low.

[yungmack]

1 minute ago, ganesh said:

He does have a point.  The difference between winning and losing in the NFL is a play here or there that you make or don't make.   That pass needed to be as accurate as hell to a wide open O' Leary. if you want your QB to be talked in the same sentence as a Brees or Rivers.

My objection to his criticism is that it shows extreme bias. There at least a dozen other plays that could as easily been pointed out, including that 3 and out series before KC took over for the last time. But some around here only ever harp on TT's screw ups. Sure, you could say that play would have been the key play. Or you could have picked from a ton of other ones. But certain people are only going to focus on Tyrod.

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

You focus on a 14 yard completion on a 2nd and 16 as the primary reason we almost lost? Some of you guys should really watch more football. QBs miss wide open receivers all the time. That isn’t even Tyrod’s issue, it’s not throwing the ball on time that he struggles with. Overall he is pretty accurate with the ball and sometimes he throws dimes like the deep throw to Zay that he just couldn’t get enough separation on. Dennison is far and away the biggest problem on offense, more than any one player.

 

It would have been a major factor...details win and lose football games much more than the average person watching with no real fundamental knowledge realizes...and that was an INEXCUSABLE detail that was wrong...in a nutshell that is why Taylor csnt be a franchise QB...he does the big things right but too many details not well enough...that was the essiest throw he had all day...clean pocket...wide open receiver and he turfs the ball...huh??

 

In the big picture O'Leary is inside the 20 if he catches it on the run, we kick at least a FG and go up 9...running more time off the clock...instead we made it way harder than we needed to...details details...

Edited November 26, 2017 by matter2003

[dave mcbride]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

How anyone blames Taylor is beyond me.

 

The ultra conservative playcalling is downright awful. 

Dennison is the worst.

[Bing Bong]

4 minutes ago, Bills757 said:

That’s apparently the focus now that Taylor is playing again. Last week, when Peterman threw the five picks, people focused on how bad the Oline played, not on Peterman’s record tying outing. Now that we know the Oline sucks, and, that Dennison isn’t very good, the focus goes back to Taylor as being the weakest link in the offense. Leave it up to a whiny bunch of Buffalo fans to draw these types of conclusions. 

I do not understand the Peterman love around here. Tyrod starting and staying healthy the rest of the season is our only chance.

[BringBackOrton]

1 minute ago, ScottLaw said:

How anyone blames Taylor is beyond me.

 

The ultra conservative playcalling is downright awful. 

His miss on O'Leary was EJ-level bad.

[Putin]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

You focus on a 14 yard completion on a 2nd and 16 as the primary reason we almost lost? Some of you guys should really watch more football. QBs miss wide open receivers all the time. That isn’t even Tyrod’s issue, it’s not throwing the ball on time that he struggles with. Overall he is pretty accurate with the ball and sometimes he throws dimes like the deep throw to Zay that he just couldn’t get enough separation on. Dennison is far and away the biggest problem on offense, more than any one player.

I really hope they’re both gone sooner then later