yungmack Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 39 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: The Saints had 17 first-half points to the Bills 3. The Jets had 10 points in the first half, to the Bills 7. You guys act like the game was already over before halftime, when each of those was well within reach. It wasn't until the second half when the defense started to get tired that things went south. In each of those games, the opposing team had the time of possession advantage. In fact, the Saints had double the time of possession. I'm not saying blame Tyrod for the defenses poor performance, but when people say "Tyrod didn't give up 47 points." I think that's a BS state because he was a major contributor to the Saints game. Let's see if I understand the current QB analysis. When Natty Pete stinks up the O, it's because the LINE sucks. When TT has a lousy performance behind that same line, it's because HE sucks. That about it? 3
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: You oversimplify the play to win notion. Taylor is not a consistent winner. IMO the job of the coach is to consistently win by improving the play of the team. Tyrod has hit a ceiling and other teams have recognized it. You completely miss the point. He's the best on the current roster. End of story. Obviously they should look to upgrade the position, but that's not happening this season.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: You completely miss the point. He's the best on the current roster. End of story. Obviously they should look to upgrade the position, but that's not happening this season. Corollary: If you start the best guy on the current roster, you risk the ability to get the upgrade at which point the whole process is screwed.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, joesixpack said: Corollary: If you start the best guy on the current roster, you risk the ability to get the upgrade at which point the whole process is screwed. No coach is going to think in this manner. Not reality.
JPP Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 All this banter back and forth.....for the QB position alone it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure it out...you start Taylor cause he is far better option (if your not purposely tanking of course)...there are NO other options available...period. But i stand behind what i always said,,,,,,,if this team does not do anything to fix the defence it does not matter...i will say it again....you can start Brady under centre this team will not win with this cast of misfits around him!
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: No coach is going to think in this manner. Not reality. Well then that's a real shame. We had a legitimate shot at getting one of the better QBs in this draft and FINALLY fixing the position. You'll know it's over if that doesn't happen in the 2018 draft and instead they take a DT because we just HAD to push to .500 this year.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: You oversimplify the play to win notion. Taylor is not a consistent winner. IMO the job of the coach is to consistently win by improving the play of the team. Tyrod has hit a ceiling and other teams have recognized it. Hasn't everyone recognized the fact that Tyrod has hit a ceiling? We witnessed this last season. Tyrod is what he is, give him the 85 Bears or 2015 Denver D and he can get you into the playoffs and maybe more. This team is very devoid of talent and thus Tyrod can not elevate the team to anything more.
cba fan Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 41 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Peterman's next start will be 12/10 vs. Colts. And he'll finish the season as the starter. It could come at halftime of Pats game if TT plays like old TT. Or maybe even halftime of Chiefs game if TT has 10 yards and is 2 for12 w no first downs.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, joesixpack said: Well then that's a real shame. We had a legitimate shot at getting one of the better QBs in this draft and FINALLY fixing the position. You'll know it's over if that doesn't happen in the 2018 draft and instead they take a DT because we just HAD to push to .500 this year. The best college prospect isn't necessarily going to be the one selected highest. It's been shown to be the case in many instances. Beyond that, they have ammo to move up to get the guy they covet if needed.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, 26CornerBlitz said: The best college prospect isn't necessarily going to be the one selected highest. It's been shown to be the case in many instances. Beyond that, they have ammo to move up to get the guy they covet if needed. Let's hope. You gotta figure, Giants, Browns, Niners, Jets are all gonna have their greedy little fingers in that pie.
Big Turk Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, jkirchofer said: Makes me lose confidence in McDermott moving forward. I want a head coach that will stick with a decision. This season is already done with, spend the time evaluating instead of allowing Taylor to audition for other teams. If Peterman doesnt put in an all time worst QB performance in NFL history he likely doesn't switch back...as it is he has little choice.
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, joesixpack said: Let's hope. You gotta figure, Giants, Browns, Niners, Jets are all gonna have their greedy little fingers in that pie. Niiners have their guy in Jimmy G or so they believe.
Like A Mofo Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 I wonder if Richard Sherman will tweet if Tyrod is 14-28 for 98 yards and 1 INT 1
Young34 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Agreed. Never understood the decision to begin with, considering the defense the real issue. I totally agree. The time to bench Tyrod and see what you have in a fresh rookie is not while you're in the midst of a playoff race. That's just dumb. That being said, if we are mathematically eliminated, by all means put Peterman in and see what you have in him. We were 5-4, in the 6th seed for the playoffs, and we bench our mobile QB who makes our O-line look somewhat competent for a rookie who doesn't have the mobility to work with our crappy line. Oh, and our defense is like a wet paper bag at this point. But, yeah, lets continue to bench the QB who got us this far, stick in the Rookie who threw almost twice as many interceptions as Taylor has had all season, and see where it gets us for the remainder of 2017. /sarcasm
87168 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: You oversimplify the play to win notion. Taylor is not a consistent winner. IMO the job of the coach is to consistently win by improving the play of the team. Tyrod has hit a ceiling and other teams have recognized it. I think this is an over simplification. he had a horrible game against the saints. the team as a whole did. the game against the jets he threw for 244 yards. the jets beat us on the ground. they rushed for 194 yds against the Bills' 64 yds. and the Bills lost 3 fumbles... this team's defense is tragic. in their last 3 games the've allowed the opponent to score 34pts, 47pts, and 54pts. TT should not have been benched without a clearly better replacement available.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Like A Mofo said: I wonder if Richard Sherman will tweet if Tyrod is 14-28 for 98 yards and 1 INT Doubt it.
The Frankish Reich Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Niiners have their guy in Jimmy G or so they believe. And apparently they're gonna hide him so that only they have a clue as to his worth. Or they don't want to get him hurt. Or CJ Beathard doesn't understand that his job is to go out and lose games so they'll have that 2nd overall pick to trade. Or all of the above. 1
Marty McFly Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Mat68 said: Yes. I believe Dennison will be the fall guy at the end of the year for that and the overall wreck the offense has turned into. I hope so. Our next rookie draft pick hopes so too.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Niiners have their guy in Jimmy G or so they believe. Again, let's hope. I prefer not to hope. I prefer to be certain
zow2 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Well then that's a real shame. We had a legitimate shot at getting one of the better QBs in this draft and FINALLY fixing the position. You'll know it's over if that doesn't happen in the 2018 draft and instead they take a DT because we just HAD to push to .500 this year. You don't have to stink anymore and be #1 to get your QB. teams trade draft assets to move up all the time.. They can get whoever they want at QB, just gotta be willing to pay.
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