John from Riverside Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Not me. I still consider it to be among the biggest miscalculations I've ever seen by a Bills' HC. Just a horrendous blunder. You know I respect your posts..... I am just saying that Peterman (in theory) did seem to fit the offense better then TT did......they have taken away all of Tyrod's ability to throw deep....replaced by big physical slot guys where Tyrod does not feel that comfortable throwing.....and it seems to be a 3 step and fire offense which Tyrod does not do. Now....the Peterman start WAS a disaster.....but i cannot blame a HC for doing something drastic trying to save the season..... QB isnt even the biggest problem on the team.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 27 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Again: I would like to understand in what way you feel starting Peterman would be "doing it for the future"? I'm trying to grasp the mindset. Taylor's not the future. Starting him does nothing to advance the cause of drafting a QB next draft.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: You know I respect your posts..... I am just saying that Peterman (in theory) did seem to fit the offense better then TT did......they have taken away all of Tyrod's ability to throw deep....replaced by big physical slot guys where Tyrod does not feel that comfortable throwing.....and it seems to be a 3 step and fire offense which Tyrod does not do the OL does not allow. Now....the Peterman start WAS a disaster.....but i cannot blame a HC for doing something drastic trying to save the season..... QB isnt even the biggest problem on the team. fixed for accuracy.
Ol Dirty B Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Quoted you twice just to say making people uncomfortable with your stupidity is less a quest for truth than the internet equivalent of drinking bleach. Great joke. Why are you so sensitive. How else am I supposed to take someone who wants to play Peterman again over Tyrod. Especially when I didn't get the move in the first place. You're sensitive for a reason, quote me twice again. I'm collecting royalties. Like it makes a difference quoting twice for emphasis might be the dumbest decision I've seen since the Bills started Peterman. Get used to that one, it has staying power. He did things no man has ever done. And never said making people uncomfortable was my "quest" but you just don't... Eh I'll stop not worth it. Edited November 22, 2017 by Ol Dirty B
oldmanfan Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 I rarely disagree with Shaw but will do so here. McD I think is a very calculating guy ,and does not make rash decisions. I believe he looked hard at the data up to last week's game, watched eternam in practice, and felt that starting him may be an upgrade to the offense. So he started, and it was in his words a calculated risk. And it didn't pan out. Now he knows that, he knows putting him back in after having his confidence shaken in a snakepit like Arrowhead would not be a good move, so he goes back to his veteran. Will the one game benching light a fire under TT? Let's hope so. regardless, I don't see him losing the team over this. He explains why he makes decisions, has taken responsibility for this one, and in the end is making what he feels are the best moves to keep this team in the payoff picture AND for long term growth.
Big Gun Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 33 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said: Yeah, I'd much prefer to see him completely ruin Peterman's career in addition to giving up on the team and season... You do realize that the alternative floor is 5 interceptions in a half? I'm shocked that people are seemingly against this decision. Peterman was historically bad, and that's not hyperbole. It's not good for him as a person or player to go back out there this week. So he threw 5 interceptions in his very first start opposed to 56 yards and went 3 and out over and over in his 38th start. One game was 54-24 the other was 47-10, you really think there is a difference there?
26TrapDraw Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 25 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said: So let's trot out the completely unready 5th round rookie who just had one of the worst stat lines in NFL history. Maybe he'll injure himself in addition to throwing multiple picks this time. Madness. It took the obligatory 6 weeks for coordinators to catch up to our defense and offense and now it doesn't matter what we do Taylor can't dissect a defense from the pocket and Peterman not ready throw in this defense is awful and here we are. We may not win another game this season.
Worstcaseontario Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Maybe tyrod takes that benching as a message and goes ham and gets us to 11-5
GoBills808 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: Why are you so sensitive. How else am I supposed to take someone who wants to play Peterman again over Tyrod. Especially when I didn't get the move in the first place. You're sensitive for a reason, quote me twice again. I'm collecting royalties. Like it makes a difference quoting twice for emphasis might be the dumbest decision I've seen since the Bills started Peterman. Get used to that one, it has staying power. He did things no man has ever done. And never said making people uncomfortable was my "quest" but you just don't... Eh I'll stop not worth it. You are a legitimate moron.
John from Riverside Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Anyone know Glenn's status? A BIIIG part of all this
Mark Vader Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Yep. He backed himself into a corner. He made a horrendous decision and now was faced with two no win (perhaps literally) choices. But at least he made the lesser of evils choice here. He could have compounded his error. I agree. Now let's see how Taylor responds.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said: So he threw 5 interceptions in his very first start opposed to 56 yards and went 3 and out over and over in his 38th start. One game was 54-24 the other was 47-10, you really think there is a difference there? Flacco threw for 28 yards and 2 INTs through 3 quarters in his 141st start. There was no push to start Mallett over him. QBs will have bad games. Knee-jerk reactions aren't the solution, especially when you're still in playoff position. 1
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 The only other option in that game was to take the sacks and pass for 54 yards at the half. We already have Taylor for that, I would rather let a rookie pass the football and throw int's like Peyton and Farve did in their rookie years then have them be gun shy like Edwards and Taylor. This whole game was a recipe for disaster. You have the Bills weak O-Line vs the best D-Line with a rookie QB who is not afraid to throw the ball into tight windows. I really don't think this game will define Peterman as a QB, I am 100% sure Peterman will get another shot once we are eliminated for the playoffs.
section122 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 24 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Not me. I still consider it to be among the biggest miscalculations I've ever seen by a Bills' HC. Just a horrendous blunder. Agreed. This one decision above all else really soured me on this regime. Usually it's the middle of year 2 before that happens! I am glad to see that he was able to admit the mistake and wasn't stubborn so I guess I'll give him a little credit there.
Hurricane Marv Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said: So he threw 5 interceptions in his very first start opposed to 56 yards and went 3 and out over and over in his 38th start. One game was 54-24 the other was 47-10, you really think there is a difference there? Yes, of course I think there's a world of difference between turning the ball over 5 times, and not turning it over at all, passing yardage and fantasy stats aside.
BreezeMafia Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: And water is wet, the sun is hot, we all pay taxes, etc.
Gugny Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 46 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said: Yeah, I'd much prefer to see him completely ruin Peterman's career in addition to giving up on the team and season... You do realize that the alternative floor is 5 interceptions in a half? I'm shocked that people are seemingly against this decision. Peterman was historically bad, and that's not hyperbole. It's not good for him as a person or player to go back out there this week. If Peterman can't handle adversity/shake off a crap performance, then he's not the guy and won't have a career, anyway.
Big Gun Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: Flacco threw for 28 yards and 2 INTs through 3 quarters in his 141st start. There was no push to start Mallett over him. QBs will have bad games. Knee-jerk reactions aren't the solution, especially when you're still in playoff position. I'm no Flacco fan and he isn't very good anymore but Joe has simply accomplished way more and earned the right to some bad games, Tyrod not so much.
Ol Dirty B Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: You are a legitimate moron. Cool, good talk. You've added a lot and made me rethink my positions. Edited November 22, 2017 by Ol Dirty B
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 22, 2017 Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, PeterGriffin said: I'm no Flacco fan and he isn't very good anymore but Joe has simply accomplished way more and earned the right to some bad games, Tyrod not so much. And Tyrod has done more to earn a bad game than Peterman, no?
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