McD already a hypocrite by not committing to Tyrod at KC

[Billsfan1972]

6 minutes ago, teef said:

i'm with you.  even if the bills managed to sneak into playoffs, then what?  i'd love to break that streak, but they certainly wouldn't be competitive.  on top of that, i think it's more than likely tyrod will be gone next year and there will be a new qb in town.  there was going to be a shake up next year, playoffs or not.  

And play jax. They easily could beat them  

 

But you'll be here posting for months about mock drafts and combine results while I won't care until September 2018.

Edited November 21, 2017 by Billsfan1972

[jrober38]

The vast majority of the decisions the Bills made this year strongly suggested they're building to win in the future, and that anything positive that happens this year is them playing with house money. 

 

They traded Watkins

They traded Darby

They traded Dareus

 

These were decisions that weren't going to make us better this year, and the Peterman decision is no different. McDermott thinks Peterman has a better shot of being our long term QB than Taylor, and because they think that they want to see him on the field now. 

[JM2009]

4 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

You are being optimistic haha. I think the Bills will win one more game max. They are the worst team in football right now

Could be. But I think they can beat Miami and the Colts at home with TT.

[oldmanfan]

1 minute ago, billsfan11 said:

Well of course it didn't work out the way he wanted lol. It couldn't have gotten much worse at that.

 

He did make the wrong decision and he hasn't really owned it. What was his quote. "I don't regret the decision, I regret the result?". Basically saying he still thinks it was the right move starting Peterman and not admitting it was wrong. 

 

You are being critical just to be critical now.  He made a call and he regrets the call didn't work.

[BillsFan130]

Just now, JM2009 said:

Could be. But I think they can beat Miami and the Colts at home with TT.

Ya depending how the defence plays. If they play like the last 3 games they will lose out. But of course I don't think they continue that horrid streak as they have been historically bad

[Chuck Wagon]

45 minutes ago, 87168 said:

i'm going off what the coach said upon his arrival, and during interviews. he's stated multiple times that he is here to win games, and win games now. 

 

 

Find me any organization other than the Browns who actually told the media/fans they aren't trying to win right now.

[JM2009]

2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

And play jax. They easily cpuld beat them  

 

But you'll be here posting for months about mock drafts and combine results while I won't care until September 2018.

I'd rather make the WC and lose 100-0 then this repeating cycle of nothing.

[Billsfan1972]

Just now, billsfan11 said:

Well of course it didn't work out the way he wanted lol. It couldn't have gotten much worse at that.

 

He did make the wrong decision and he hasn't really owned it. What was his quote. "I don't regret the decision, I regret the result?". Basically saying he still thinks it was the right move starting Peterman and not admitting it was wrong. 

 

That's too hard a concept for some here to grasp......

 

How about "I made a mistake and put Peterman in a bad situation and it was unfair to him the team and the fans"

 

Peterman was starting the second half if he didn't throw int 5.

[BillsFan130]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

You are being critical just to be critical now.  He made a call and he regrets the call didn't work.

Not being critical, just stating facts. You are saying he owned the decision if I read that right? He didn't at all is what I'm saying. That's pretty inarguable by his post game quotes

Edited November 21, 2017 by billsfan11

[Heitz]

59 minutes ago, xsoldier54 said:

Because you don't agree with him does not make him a hypocrite.

 

Holy, might have to make this my signature! 

 

 

23 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

He hasn't owned it.  That is the problem with McDermott.  He's a fraud if Peterman starts the locker room is lost and top level fa's will not want to come here if they here tgis is a rebuilding program for 2020.

 

Hyperbole much?

 

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

And he said it didn't work out the way they wanted.  You're being completely ridiculous at this point.

 

Bingo. 

[ddaryl]

6 minutes ago, billsfan11 said:

Well of course it didn't work out the way he wanted lol. It couldn't have gotten much worse at that.

 

He did make the wrong decision and he hasn't really owned it. What was his quote. "I don't regret the decision, I regret the result?". Basically saying he still thinks it was the right move starting Peterman and not admitting it was wrong. 

 

 

 

because it was the right move.. Anyone with a clue could see the Bills were not going ot make the playoffs given the 2 weeks prior and the fist full of clues we saw the enitre season. And this thought process where some how TT fixes his short comings and puts the team on his back to hide the rest of the Bills deficiencies had less than 0% chance of happening... SO you face reality and look towards the future. For better or worse you change the main horse at QB because swapping out an enite defense or OL was not a possibility..

Edited November 21, 2017 by ddaryl

[boco357]

Where are all the other moves. So the defense can give up 140 pts the last three games but no changes made.  Milano maybe or how bout Tare Elston on some downs instead of one of the slower LBs.

 

This regime obsesses over Special teamers, but keeps all these extra offenaive lineman, but Henderson, Groy, Miller or Connor McDermott don't deserve a shot after your QB almost gets killed last week or run game does nothing previous weeks.

 

 

They should want to win this game out of all the others since we have KCs pick.  

[wppete]

42 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said:

Tyrod sucks, checkdown Charlie.

 Check Check Check

[zow2]

Eh i don't think he's a hypocrite.  His reputation has definitely taken a hit though.  Let's face it, last week 98% of the national media called the move to Peterman -dumb, stupid, moronic and reckless (to name a few).  We local fans were like..NO, we watch the team every week and it's a good calculated risk.  Well, the national media was 100% right!   It was a dumb move in hindsight.  The team was in a playoff spot and they pissed it away.  Probably would've lost with Tyrod anyway, but that narrative is pointless now. 

[simool]

1 hour ago, Jobot said:

FACT: McDermott's reason to start Peterman, (so he said) was to try and figure out if he could give the Bills a better chance to win and make the playoffs

 

Okay... following Peterman's debut.... there is no arguing that the team is better off today starting Tyrod over Peterman.

 

So even if you believe that Peterman 'knew where the ball should go' and made some 'darn good plays'... you cannot bury your head in the sand and ignore that the O-line will ever allow this approach to succeed.  Until the O-line problems are fixed, only then can you justify Peterman back under center IF YOU ARE SAYING WE WANT TO WIN TODAY....  So Tyrod MUST be the starter if you're trying to tell everyone that you play the guys that give the team their best chance to win.

 

It's really disappointing to see this from someone who had appeared to be a great Leader earlier in the season.  Regardless of Wins and Losses, the Bills appeared to have found a true leader that could get the best out of his team.  Unless he has been having some 'behind the scenes' brutally honest discussions with the players, this locker room is going to crumble very soon... as no one is going to want to go follow this guy.

 

Really? I don't recall him saying what you quoted.  I recall him saying the decision was made in the best interest of the team, then later saying it was in the best interest of the team for now and in the future. At the point you call someone out and call them a hypocrite, you should probably provide a link to the original quote.

 

Toning down the fan drama would dramatically improve everything.  I believe the sports media sensationalized this personnel move in much the same way the media sensationalizes everything today. Many of you are feeding off it and it is truly an exercise in futility.  As my father used to say on long drives; sit back, relax, and enjoy the drive.

 

When I was a child in the back seat of his car, he was correct; what did have control of? very little.  As a fan sitting in Terry Pegulas back seat (which you are lucky to have by the way), really what do you have control of? very little.  I know if I had enough money to buy the Bills the fans would not factor into any of my front office or coaching decisions for at least three years, probably four.  At that point if it is bad, I would need to make a change.

 

The purpose of all of this griping and moaning is puzzling.  What do you hope to achieve? In reality you only have a portion of the information required to make the decisions these coaches gms are making.

[JM2009]

2 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Eh i don't think he's a hypocrite.  His reputation has definitely taken a hit though.  Let's face it, last week 98% of the national media called the move to Peterman -dumb, stupid, moronic and reckless (to name a few).  We local fans were like..NO, we watch the team every week and it's a good calculated risk.  Well, the national media was 100% right!   It was a dumb move in hindsight.  The team was in a playoff spot and they pissed it away.  Probably would've lost with Tyrod anyway, but that narrative is pointless now. 

This pretty much.

[ddaryl]

1 minute ago, zow2 said:

  It was a dumb move in hindsight.  The team was in a playoff spot and they pissed it away.  Probably would've lost with Tyrod anyway, but that narrative is pointless now. 

 

 

They pissed it away when they couldn't rebound at home against the Saints with extra days to prepare.  That was pretty clear

 

 

[vorpma]

1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

 McD  didn’t mean for one game ... he wants to see if Peterman can be better long-term ... it’s really a simple concept ... I don’t know why so many people are having such a hard time with it ...Everyone needs to realize that Taylor is gone after this season and playing him now does nothing for anyone.

Ah, I needed this post, common sense on TWD, very little on these days filled emotion, gibberish, and nonsense.

[TheFunPolice]

Tyrod is not good. All these commenters who feel the need to preface their criticism of his play with "well, he IS a good QB" amuse me.

 

Right. He's really good... just not for us. Please.

 

No need to do the whole "it's not you... it's me" thing.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

 McD  didn’t mean for one game ... he wants to see if Peterman can be better long-term ... it’s really a simple concept ... I don’t know why so many people are having such a hard time with it ...Everyone needs to realize that Taylor is gone after this season and playing him now does nothing for anyone.

 

JaCrispy,  it doesn't draw much discussion but there is definitely cause for concern about what a strict diet of butt-whuppings does to the culture of a team.

 

If Taylor gives us a chance to win, or at least not be publically humiliated on both sides of the ball, now that we've "tanked the tank" there is an argument to be made for playing him.  If Peterman can be better long term, there is also an argument to be made for properly developing him - which does not mean throwing him in like that.

The argument against that philosophy would be that Dennison doesn't seem capable of using Taylor or McCoy effectively behind the line we've got, so why.

But that same argument applies to Peterman.

Edited November 21, 2017 by Hapless Bills Fan