Strethor Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, AdamK said: After the Chargers game, I thought the same thing - McDermott HAD to go back to Tyrod for the remainder of the season. Now, I think he is screwed either way. If he goes back to Tyrod, he looks weak and undetermined. Also, we don't learn any more about Peterman or his future (I don't believe that can be determined on one game.) Best outcome for this option is that Tyrod comes out and plays more aggressive and starts lighting it up, but given past indicators this is doubtful. If Peterman starts again, I think he could lose the locker room. But this is the only way McDermott can regain his credibility. If Peterman starts this week and starts throwing interceptions, the season would be over. But the best outcome for this option is if Peterman somehow turns it around and plays really well....once again highly doubtful given past indicators. Unfortunately, (for us fans desperate for the playoffs) this decision will not be based on getting to the playoffs this year. I think McDermott has left himself with only one viable option for his long term future and credibility - starting Peterman. Agreed 100% .. Tyrod won't be successful enough for us to make the playoffs with this Wanny-like garbage at D 1
JM2009 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: Tyrod sucks, checkdown Charlie. If he is bad as you think, the Bills could not be 20-18 when he plays. I remember when Watkins played and was healthy, completed bombs down field. I think the Bills were top five in that in 2015.
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 This board is insufferable sometimes. In the eyes of the OP, if one changes their mind they can be termed a "hypocrite". Things change, the 2017 Buffalo Bills outlook changed dramatically last Sunday. Another lose to an AFC team, we were firmly knocked out of the playoff picture and no longer control our own destiny.
JM2009 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, Strethor said: We won't make the playoffs with this D - too many holes as of now and for exactly that reason is why we won't see the playoffs even with Taylor. McD needs to ride out his decision and not flip flop like for example Hue Jackson. It sucks but it's what this team needs. The last thing we need is to stumble to 8-8 purgatory tbh 8-8 could get the sixth seed this year. But we won't even make that. 7-9.
1billsfan Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, 87168 said: that doesn't make sense. those losses didn't eliminate them from playoff contention. with that said, you're kind of implying that the coach threw away the season in order to evaluate a rookie. that again, contradicts what he's been telling the fan base since he got here. Maybe he thought that the defense was going down and not going to come back, and that putting in Peterman was his attempt to save the season. Because he was an unknown as far as what he could do. Could he come in and start putting up points on the board using the passing game? So this would have been an attempt to save the season, because with the defense he had, Taylor was a known quantity of not being good enough to outscore teams. The big picture for the people in charge of getting this franchise back on top is being focused on the future of this team, not necessarily this season. Edited November 21, 2017 by 1billsfan
87168 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, ddaryl said: I'm more interested in seeing more of Nate and if he can rebound... and I don't beleive TT gives us a better chance. Opposing teams know exactly how to beat him now according the chargers, and the film they watched of him during the pre-season, pressure is key. the chargers figured that out with a few minutes of pre-season film, and a few minutes from the saints game. granted they have the best pass rush in the league, but as they stated, they figured him out just like teams have with TT. the difference is TT can extend plays under pressure, or knows to take at least dump it off or take a sack, rather than throw an errant ball, leading to an int.
Billsfan1972 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) So bring him back if 5-7 and two more blowouts. Can't with the chance of the playoffs and jax round 1. What happened to all saying Peterman gives us the best chance to win? That off the table mostly lemmings? Edited November 21, 2017 by Billsfan1972
oldmanfan Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: He hasn't owned it. That is the problem with McDermott. He's a fraud if Peterman starts the locker room is lost and top level fa's will not want to come here if they here tgis is a rebuilding program for 2020. Are you insane? Because he has said repeatedly that the decision was on him. 1
Billsfan1972 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: Are you insane? Because he has said repeatedly that the decision was on him. Not that it was the wrong decision. That would be owning it!!!!
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 Can you guys stop crying already. It's Tuesday. Life isn't hanging in the balance here. 2
Strethor Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, 87168 said: according the chargers, and the film they watched of him during the pre-season, pressure is key. the chargers figured that out with a few minutes of pre-season film, and a few minutes from the saints game. granted they have the best pass rush in the league, but as they stated, they figured him out just like teams have with TT. the difference is TT can extend plays under pressure, or knows to take at least dump it off or take a sack, rather than throw an errant ball, leading to an int. The game plan would have been different had Taylor started - on what Bosa and Ingram do play to play. We are largely screwed on both sides of the ball unless everything pans out ideally in what our defense and run game brings to the game.
ddaryl Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, 87168 said: according the chargers, and the film they watched of him during the pre-season, pressure is key. the chargers figured that out with a few minutes of pre-season film, and a few minutes from the saints game. granted they have the best pass rush in the league, but as they stated, they figured him out just like teams have with TT. the difference is TT can extend plays under pressure, or knows to take at least dump it off or take a sack, rather than throw an errant ball, leading to an int. But I no longer care about TT and the Bills playoff chances. That shipped sailed for me.. All I care about is seeing what we have and hoping this rebuild is different from the the last 10
PromoTheRobot Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 And if Tyrod started the SD game this thread would be called "McDermott stubbornly refuses to start Peterman." 3
BillsFan130 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 Mcd is a phony in my books. I love how after the Saints game he says TT is the starter and then he goes to Peterman. Just jerking his players around. If he wasn't sure who to start, all you got to say is a cliche answer. "We will evaluate every position including quarterback". Really not that difficult
Billsfan1972 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: And if Tyrod started the SD game this thread would be called "McDermott stubbornly refuses to start Peterman." He's a 5th round rookie. No one except those here or who call wgr would care. . .
oldmanfan Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Not that it was the wrong decision. That would be owning it!!!! And he said it didn't work out the way they wanted. You're being completely ridiculous at this point. 1
BillsFan130 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, JM2009 said: 8-8 could get the sixth seed this year. But we won't even make that. 7-9. You are being optimistic haha. I think the Bills will win one more game max. They are the worst team in football right now 1
teef Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, ddaryl said: But I no longer care about TT and the Bills playoff chances. That shipped sailed for me.. All I care about is seeing what we have and hoping this rebuild is different from the the last 10 i'm with you. even if the bills managed to sneak into playoffs, then what? i'd love to break that streak, but they certainly wouldn't be competitive. on top of that, i think it's more than likely tyrod will be gone next year and there will be a new qb in town. there was going to be a shake up next year, playoffs or not. 2
Jobot Posted November 21, 2017 Author Posted November 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, 1billsfan said: Maybe the three straight poundings on defense have shifted this season away from "win now", to more of an evaluation of the players they want to keep for next season. That includes looking at what they have in Peterman against teams like the Chiefs and the Patriots. The 5-2 season was clearly a fluke. This team needs a lot of players and the HC and GM are just starting out. I think fan expectations need to change back to what they were at the beginning of the season. I agree, but IMO someone needs to be held accountable for such a horrid evaluation of the team's performance and player talent. This staff was ready to crown the rebuild complete when they traded for Benjamin which was super premature... Here's an idea... before trading Dareus, don't play him during the 'obvious' run situations and see how well the rest of your roster performs. Then you understand what impact will come from his departure. I just hope this regime is learning through all of this.
BillsFan130 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: And he said it didn't work out the way they wanted. You're being completely ridiculous at this point. Well of course it didn't work out the way he wanted lol. It couldn't have gotten much worse at that. He did make the wrong decision and he hasn't really owned it. What was his quote. "I don't regret the decision, I regret the result?". Basically saying he still thinks it was the right move starting Peterman and not admitting it was wrong.
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