ndirish1978 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) I originally put this in another thread, then, because I am a special snowflake I erased the post and decided my 5 minutes of effort was worthy of it's own thread. This team will be devoid of talent for a while. All those picks we have now are going to get packaged to try and get the 2nd pick of the draft. As a result, if we land 3 starters in next year's draft I would be shocked. We have a tremendous need of at least 10 new players just to field a non-trash roster. Be prepared to start next season looking at the roster and saying "who is that starter?" Positions that will have to be addressed this offseason are in red. Offense - we have FIVE positions of extreme need with one decent player likely being replaced by someone on the roster. QB -Tyrod - GONE RB - Shady - Over 30 and has no backup WR - Kelvin Benjamin - 1 more year on contract WR - Jordan Matthews - Injured and would need to be re-signed or replaced WR - Zay Jones - Here for the foreseeable future TE - Charles Clay - perennially injured. Back ups are not great. Needs to be replaced T - Cordy Glenn - Can't find the field because of injury - Big cap number - Might be supplanted by Dawkins G - Richie Incognito - 34 yrs old C - Eric Wood - 31 - signed an extension this offseason G - Vlad the Turnstile - Please get him off my team. Miller is equally bad. T - Jordan Mills - See Vlad above Defense - Ideally we would replace the whole D-Line. Realistically - we're stuck with at least 2 of them. That leaves us with FIVE immediate needs on D. DE - Shaq Lawson - He's not going anywhere next year DT - Adolphus Washington - Should be a rotational player, but will start here next year. DT - Kyle Williams - Will retire DE - Jerry Hughes - Poor production, can't survive being the only pass rushing threat. Should be moved, but will stay because who else do we have- unless we manage to trade him. OLB - Lorenzo Alexander - Nice guy, shouldn't be starting MLB - Preston Brown - Nope OLB - Ramon Humber - Average, needs to be replaced. Matt Milano should be depth, not a starter CB - Tre White - So far this is the first player on the team I'm happy about CB - EJ Gaines/Shareece Wright - Gaines can't stay healthy and Wright is not amazing S - Jordan Poyer - Starter S - Micah Hyde - Starter Edited November 20, 2017 by ndirish1978 1
White Linen Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 All you really need is 2-3 years - hopefully about the time a young QB is coming into his own. 1
Buffalo716 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: I originally put this in another thread, then, because I am a special snowflake I erased the post and decided my 5 minutes of effort was worthy of it's own thread. This team will be devoid of talent for a while. All those picks we have now are going to get packaged to try and get the 2nd pick of the draft. As a result, if we land 3 starters in next year's draft I would be shocked. We have a tremendous need of at least 10 new players just to field a non-trash roster. Be prepared to start next season looking at the roster and saying "who is that starter?" Positions that will have to be addressed this offseason are in red. Offense - we have FIVE positions of extreme need with one decent player likely being replaced by someone on the roster. QB -Tyrod - GONE RB - Shady - Over 30 and has no backup WR - Kelvin Benjamin - 1 more year on contract WR - Jordan Matthews - Injured and would need to be re-signed or replaced WR - Zay Jones - Here for the foreseeable future TE - Charles Clay - perennially injured. Back ups are not great. Needs to be replaced T - Cordy Glenn - Can't find the field because of injury - Big cap number - Might be supplanted by Dawkins G - Richie Incognito - 34 yrs old C - Eric Wood - 31 - signed an extension this offseason G - Vlad the Turnstile - Please get him off my team. Miller is equally bad. T - Jordan Mills - See Vlad above Defense - Ideally we would replace the whole D-Line. Realistically - we're stuck with at least 2 of them. That leaves us with FIVE immediate needs on D. DE - Shaq Lawson - He's not going anywhere next year DT - Adolphus Washington - Should be a rotational player, but will start here next year. DT - Kyle Williams - Will retire DE - Jerry Hughes - Poor production, can't survive being the only pass rushing threat. Should be moved, but will stay because who else do we have- unless we manage to trade him. OLB - Lorenzo Alexander - Nice guy, shouldn't be starting MLB - Preston Brown - Nope OLB - Ramon Humber - Average, needs to be replaced. Matt Milano should be depth, not a starter CB - Tre White - So far this is the first player on the team I'm happy about CB - EJ Gaines/Shareece Wright - Gaines can't stay healthy and Wright is not amazing S - Jordan Poyer - Starter S - Micah Hyde - Starter Shady is not OVER 30 he is 29 and a fresh 29 who doesn't take too many big hits
Kelly the Dog Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 I'm not so sure. We have a bunch of high picks. We could sign 3-4 solid players in free agency. And if we get rid of a couple more of our stars for sixth rounders, those picks could really pan out.
Bangarang Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 Plenty of time for us to spend the next few years signing and drafting guys for this regime’s schemes only to hire new coaches that will want to run something entirely different. 2
4BillsintheBurgh Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I'm not so sure. We have a bunch of high picks. We could sign 3-4 solid players in free agency. And if we get rid of a couple more of our stars for sixth rounders, those picks could really pan out. Sounds like we will need to trade both picks out of the first round to cover all these holes
billsfan714 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 Clay's contract was restructured and he''s going to be here for 2 more years.. There is no cap saving getting rid of him next year and the he will have almost 5 million in dead money in 19 if cut.
Real McClappy Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Plenty of time for us to spend the next few years signing and drafting guys for this regime’s schemes only to hire new coaches that will want to run something entirely different. This is what has me the most concerned of all honestly. Does our fan base, media and owner have the patience? Edited November 20, 2017 by Real McCoy
ndirish1978 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Posted November 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: This is what has me the most concerned of all honestly. Does our fan base, media and owner have the patience? This is why we keep having to reset the timer. We are going to need to sit with this combo for at least 2-3 more years 9 minutes ago, billsfan714 said: Clay's contract was restructured and he''s going to be here for 2 more years.. There is no cap saving getting rid of him next year and the he will have almost 5 million in dead money in 19 if cut. They don't really seem to care about dead cap space though. Are you happy with him as a starter? Cause he's never on the field.
BuffaloMatt Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Plenty of time for us to spend the next few years signing and drafting guys for this regime’s schemes only to hire new coaches that will want to run something entirely different. Look at the Eagles. Where were they three years ago? Hmmmmm. . . . . Bill are in year 1 of new regime. I for one will trust the process. 1
yungmack Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 18 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: I'm not so sure. We have a bunch of high picks. We could sign 3-4 solid players in free agency. And if we get rid of a couple more of our stars for sixth rounders, those picks could really pan out. If you were an elite FA (and why would the Bills want anything but elite?), would you sign with this mess?
BADOLBILZ Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 36 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: Cool! Who's going to resume the rebuild when McD is gone? Mike McCoy for HC in 2020!
JaCrispy Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) I agree with the OP’s premise...we will see what happens...I would like to see Tyrod traded for at least a mid round pick and in this scenario. Edited November 21, 2017 by JaCrispy
ndirish1978 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: Cool! Who's going to resume the rebuild when McD is gone? Mike McCoy for HC in 2020! I dunno, I wasn't complaining, just pointing out that our roster has tons of holes and we're going to have to be patient. I know everyone here is as bummed as I am about sucking this year, but that's not likely to change overnight.
Bangarang Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said: Look at the Eagles. Where were they three years ago? Hmmmmm. . . . . Bill are in year 1 of new regime. I for one will trust the process. Good luck with that. I see a team with little talent and no real direction.
Kelly the Dog Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: We are fresh out of "Whaley mistakes". The last one was shipped to Jacksonville. We could easily trade Shady for a sixth. Or maybe package Hyde and Poyer for a seventh that could become a sixth. Edited November 21, 2017 by Kelly the Dog
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 This thread could have been any one of the last 15 years. We are always 2-3 years away....
Kelly the Dog Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: This thread could have been any one of the last 15 years. We are always 2-3 years away.... But if we trust the process, maybe we can start the next rebuild a year or two later.
ndirish1978 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said: This thread could have been any one of the last 15 years. We are always 2-3 years away.... See Bangarang's post. This thread wasn't a promise, it was an observation. We are always multiple years away from being decent because we keep switching coaches and systems. I don't care how "multiple" your D is, a 3-4 OLB isn't a 4-3 OLB and they can't just switch over to playing DE. They committed to this regime, now we're all going to have to sit here and prepare to stink for at least 2-3 more years while they assemble the roster they want.
Captain Murica Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) Is this good? Seems like the drought has a legit shot at 25 years. 47 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Shady is not OVER 30 he is 29 and a fresh 29 who doesn't take too many big hits With all these blowouts he hasn't been getting too much work either Edited November 21, 2017 by Captain Murica
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