C.Biscuit97 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 No one is hiring an OC 10 games into the season. It makes zero sense. obviously, he's better than Dennison. But he isn't exactly lighting up the NFL since he left Denver the first time. I have no trust in anyone on this staff to develop a qb. Man, I wish we went with young offensive minded head coach.
CommonCents Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 Hue Jackson and Mike McCoy are two coaches that get way too much love around here. They are both less than average. Why are you guys popping wood over this?
Jauronimo Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 55 minutes ago, dubs said: Why not!!? Can’t get any worse. Wasn't that the rationale for starting Peterman yesterday? We have learned nothing.
HansLanda Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 This guy just got fired for his second time in 10 months. Tap the breaks.
NewEra Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 22 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I think I'd still prefer Hue Jackson, assuming he becomes available, but we'll see. McCoy was who McD wanted to pair up with originally. Jackson would be a HUGE get if the Browns let him go. I don’t think they will though. He’s the guy I want ?. Would rather have mccoy than Dennison at this point.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Jackson would be a HUGE get if the Browns let him go. I don’t think they will though. He’s the guy I want ?. Would rather have mccoy than Dennison at this point. They're 1-25 with him as a HC. I don't see how he lasts too much longer.
NewEra Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Hue Jackson and Mike McCoy are two coaches that get way too much love around here. They are both less than average. Why are you guys popping wood over this? Jackson is a very good OC. He’s been a bad head coach. Same can be said for many coordinators. Two different jobs Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: They're 1-25 with him as a HC. I don't see how he lasts too much longer. I hear ya. When I look at the Browns roster I just think he’s supposed to be 1-25. Kind of looks like they’re trying to be just that
Heavy Kevi Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 20 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: No one is hiring an OC 10 games into the season. It makes zero sense. obviously, he's better than Dennison. But he isn't exactly lighting up the NFL since he left Denver the first time. I have no trust in anyone on this staff to develop a qb. Man, I wish we went with young offensive minded head coach. Makes sense if the season is essentially over and he's the guy you really want dealing with the rookie next year. Idk if he's any better, but he was McD's first choice. A switch would not surprise me, but then again nothing really would at this point.
Boatdrinks Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, fridge said: Do we have anyone better? I'd like the Bills to get McCoy as well, but you have a point. The Bills QB situation is pretty bad.
TheFunPolice Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 hire him by lunch today Your #1 choice and he would take the gig I'm sure... he's not going to be a HC next year
Boatdrinks Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 43 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Not calling a play with more options beyond the sticks is his fault though. His decisions will have consequences, surely. Part of the QB stalemate was that Dennison wanted Tyrod to force more balls into coverage and Tyrod wanted to take what the D gave them and see if our guys could make a play. Dennison got a QB who would force the throws like he wanted. Wonder how he feels about the results... While Dennison surely wanted Tyrod to throw the ball more, you are embellishing here. Nate P was putrid, no doubt. However, Tony Romo and Rhonde Barber both pointed out numerous examples of WRs in one on one coverage or wide open in zones and Tyrod simply would not throw them the ball. That's not forcing balls into coverage, it's called taking what the defense is giving you. In other words, playing QB in the NFL. The 2 yard checkdown is almost always going to be " available". It just will never win you football games. Dennison is awful and needs to be fired, but not making NFL throws to WRs that are NFL open would drive even bad OCs crazy.
TheFunPolice Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 It's about time Dennison answered for ruining the offense, which worked with pretty much the same guys last year and the year before. sure, the WRs swapped out but the OL looked good to very good for 2 years now they cannot do anything
YoloinOhio Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 26 minutes ago, NewEra said: Jackson is a very good OC. He’s been a bad head coach. Same can be said for many coordinators. Two different jobs I hear ya. When I look at the Browns roster I just think he’s supposed to be 1-25. Kind of looks like they’re trying to be just that I’m finally coming around to the fact that the Browns have more talent now than the Bills on their offensive and defensive lines. I think if they played each other the Bills may still win because of Kizer and their skill players being bad/inexperienced and they turn the ball over a ton. But I’m convinced the Browns would win the battle at the LOS. Sadly. As far as Hue, he’s best suited to be an OC not a HC.
Dr. Who Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I’m finally coming around to the fact that the Browns have more talent now than the Bills on their offensive and defensive lines. I think if they played each other the Bills may still win because of Kizer and their skill players being bad/inexperienced and they turn the ball over a ton. But I’m convinced the Browns would win the battle at the LOS. Sadly. As far as Hue, he’s best suited to be an OC not a HC. He'll likely be available. We should look into it.
TheElectricCompany Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) This is what happens when you roll out Trevor Siemian and Brock Osweiler as your starting QBs. I guess he couldn't make chicken salad out of chicken Edited November 20, 2017 by TheElectricCompany
bigK14094 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, section122 said: Denver averaged 27 more yards per game and 2.5 less points per game. Glad to see a team being proactive when something isn't working. Dennison needs to go. I'm not even going to say that they should hire McCoy but they certainly need to move on from Dennison especially if there is any truth to him being the one to push Peterman starting. Dennison didn't throw 5 picks.
apuszczalowski Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 1 minute ago, bigK14094 said: Dennison didn't throw 5 picks. His offence has been as bad or worse then McCoys all season. It's being reported that the change to the guy who threw 5 picks was influenced by him and a move he pushed for. The offence was also supposed to be suited more for the guy who now may hold the record for worst QB debut in the modern NFL history.
billieve420 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 McCoy wouldn't be able to do anything this year anyway. If they fired Dennison they would promote someone in house for the rest of the season. So I wouldn't expect McCoy to be picked up until the offseason if McDermott is even interested in making a change.
Helpmenow Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 Not gonna happen, so change the system. Did McCoy run the same O as the bills
PolishDave Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Have you seen those guys play? They are the worst quarterbacked team in the league. I thought that was Miami.
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