row_33 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 43 minutes ago, Taro T said: A girl from my HS sent him a letter back around '80. He wrote her back an 8 or so page long reply. The 1st 5 pages were well written horse manure but about half way down page 6 he either started having an episode or a flashback or something. The handwriting got really bad (like a kindergartener was writing it) and REALLY incoherent - like Charlie Kelly from It's Always Sunny ... incoherent. Guy was a pure psychopath. Hopefully this brings some peace to the families of his "family's" victims. Geez.... Read Helter Skelter back in the day, and a few top reviews of the bio released on him a few years ago. Can't get interested in going any further. HS was the best back in grade 6 when it came out...
Fadingpain Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 Charlie was a really fascinating individual and an extremely unique person who led a very unusual sort of life, until he ended up in jail forever. Bat **** crazy of course and the source of much pain and suffering in the world...but what an interesting person. I could listen to the guy talk for hours. There are a lot of recordings with him during his incarceration where you can try to understand his mind a little. Interesting combination of smart and insane.
row_33 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 A prison guard wrote memoirs about his time with Charlie (death row at San Quentin???) eventually enough was enough Geraldo talking to him by video hookup and threatening to come to SQ and kick Charlie's ass was fun enough The White Album rules for my pop tastes, and I just don't see how they can justify violence from it, unless you thought it was a total sellout and proof the Fab Four was finally out of any listenable ideas.
Pete Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 The Beatles were a dark band. "Watch it burn, ain't it good norwegian wood" . "I used to beat my women" . "Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl Than to be with another man You better keep your head, little girl Or you won't know where I am You better run for your life if you can, little girl Hide your head in the sand, little girl Catch you with another man That's the end'a little girl Well, you know that I'm a wicked guy And I was born with a jealous mind And I can't spend my whole life Trying just to make you toe the line" They might sound all lovey dovey when you hear them, but if you listen to the lyrics, they were dark
row_33 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) John stole the opening line of Run For Your Life from Baby Let's Play House, sung by Elvis. Edited November 21, 2017 by row_33
Gugny Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, Pete said: The Beatles were a dark band. "Watch it burn, ain't it good norwegian wood" . "I used to beat my women" . "Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl Than to be with another man You better keep your head, little girl Or you won't know where I am You better run for your life if you can, little girl Hide your head in the sand, little girl Catch you with another man That's the end'a little girl Well, you know that I'm a wicked guy And I was born with a jealous mind And I can't spend my whole life Trying just to make you toe the line" They might sound all lovey dovey when you hear them, but if you listen to the lyrics, they were dark I always thought the Norwegian wood reference was to weed. Maxwell's Silver Hammer (Abbey Rd) is pretty violent, but I really don't see a dark side to many of their songs - especially on the White Album.
row_33 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 The only violence over Maxwell's SH was everyone else wanting to kill Macca for spending all that studio time for this song.
mead107 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 Screw him. Should have put him through a wood chipper, feet first
Gugny Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: The only violence over Maxwell's SH was everyone else wanting to kill Macca for spending all that studio time for this song. I love that song (and entire album). It's the most violent song of theirs that I can think of. 1 minute ago, mead107 said: Screw him. Should have put him through a wood chipper, feet first But alas .. .we're a civilized country and above that.
mead107 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 What good was he to society. Should send more to the chipper.
row_33 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, Gugny said: I love that song (and entire album). It's the most violent song of theirs that I can think of. Not a big fan of Abbey Road, but I understand if fans love it. It wasn't included in the mono LP and singles box-set, and I don't miss it at all.
Gugny Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, row_33 said: Not a big fan of Abbey Road, but I understand if fans love it. It wasn't included in the mono LP and singles box-set, and I don't miss it at all. I thought you quit, mother !@#$er!
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, mead107 said: What good was he to society. Should send more to the chipper. He jumpstarted "victim's rights advocacy."
Gugny Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, mead107 said: What good was he to society. Should send more to the chipper. He wasn't any good to society. That's why he was incarcerated.
mead107 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 That’s why we should have sent him to the chipper
Gugny Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, mead107 said: That’s why we should have sent him to the chipper Your stance is clear. As clear as it is moot.
row_33 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, Gugny said: I thought you quit, mother !@#$er! Just the Bills. I won't give up the politics or off the wall or college football.
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, mead107 said: That’s why we should have sent him to the chipper No. His numerous parole hearings gave rise to victim's havinga say. Letting their voice be heard. That all changed with Manson.
mead107 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 Cops should have shot him back when they captured him. Nobody would have said a word.
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, row_33 said: Just the Bills. I won't give up the politics or off the wall or college football. You didn't give up on the Bills. row_33: Edited November 21, 2017 by ExiledInIllinois Missing words
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