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  On 11/20/2017 at 1:15 AM, Jauronimo said:

Tyrod has been playing behind that same line all year.  Are you giving him a pass?

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The difference between the two is that Peterman is already throwing by the time Mills' man is crushing him. Taylor holds the ball too long to be throwing by then. 

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  On 11/20/2017 at 1:20 AM, Wayne Arnold said:

 

The difference between the two is that Peterman is already throwing by the time Mills' man is crushing him. Taylor holds the ball too long to be throwing by then. 

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So your opinion is that a throw is inherently good?  A completion is a completion no matter who the team?

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  On 11/20/2017 at 1:11 AM, Wayne Arnold said:

Peterman still threw for more yards in one half than Taylor threw the entire game last week.

 

Just sayin...

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Cool take, did you know that both QBs played a half this week. Wanna guess who threw for more yards and TDs? Wanna take a stab at who threw more ints?

 

I'll hang up and listen.

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  On 11/20/2017 at 1:19 AM, HappyDays said:

 

Thank you for the wonderful teachings example to all the people who say things like “turnovers don’t matter” and “total yards are the best way to rank a passing offense.”

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59 yards passing = 5 int's 

 

what's the difference? 

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I don't think anyone argued that it could not get worse than Taylor.  That does not mean that Taylor is the answer. 

 

Taylor cannot carry an offense in any way.  He can succeed at a mid-level, if surrounded by very good talent and supported by an exceptional defense - neither exist here today.

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The problem isn't the QB, it's the guy designing and calling the plays for the QB. You know what you have in TT, there's some good and some bad with him, some good advice to him would be to work to what he does well. 

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  On 11/20/2017 at 1:20 AM, Wayne Arnold said:

 

The difference between the two is that Peterman is already throwing by the time Mills' man is crushing him. Taylor holds the ball too long to be throwing by then. 

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What we learned today is there is a reason Tyrod holds the ball. No one is getting open. Peterman found that out the hard way, you can’t throw 1-on-1 balls to our receivers. They are simply terrible. In retrospect Tyrod is the only reason we had any semblance of an offense all year long. Dennison’s system is a joke, receivers are a joke, line is a joke. It’s beem proven once and for all Tyrod is at least an average starting QB in this league because no backup QB puts up points in this offense. God help us all if the Bills decide to trade the farm for a QB next year with all these holes.

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  On 11/20/2017 at 1:25 AM, apuszczalowski said:

The problem isn't the QB, it's the guy designing and calling the plays for the QB. You know what you have in TT, there's some good and some bad with him, some good advice to him would be to work to what he does well. 

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so check it down. got it.

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  On 11/20/2017 at 1:27 AM, HappyDays said:

 

What we learned today is there is a reason Tyrod holds the ball. No one is getting open. Peterman found that out the hard way, you can’t throw 1-on-1 balls to our receivers. They are simply terrible. In retrospect Tyrod is the only reason we had any semblance of an offense all year long. Dennison’s system is a joke, receivers are a joke, line is a joke. It’s beem proven once and for all Tyrod is at least an average starting QB in this league because no backup QB puts up points in this offense. God help us all if the Bills decide to trade the farm for a QB next year with all these holes.

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That sounds an awful lot like something Shady said earlier in the year...

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  On 11/20/2017 at 1:27 AM, HappyDays said:

 

What we learned today is there is a reason Tyrod holds the ball. No one is getting open. Peterman found that out the hard way, you can’t throw 1-on-1 balls to our receivers. They are simply terrible. In retrospect Tyrod is the only reason we had any semblance of an offense all year long. Dennison’s system is a joke, receivers are a joke, line is a joke. It’s beem proven once and for all Tyrod is at least an average starting QB in this league because no backup QB puts up points in this offense. God help us all if the Bills decide to trade the farm for a QB next year with all these holes.

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If the Bills DON'T attempt to resolve the situation, it WILL be a terminal failure.

 

Take that to the bank. Lead pipe stone cold lock.

 

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  On 11/20/2017 at 1:29 AM, joesixpack said:

 

If the Bills DON'T attempt to resolve the situation, it WILL be a terminal failure.

 

Take that to the bank. Lead pipe stone cold lock.

 

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They should draft a QB in the 1st. I don’t think think anyone is against that right now. But after the last 3 weeks I don’t know how anyone could want us to lose out on a number of easy round picks. We have so many positions to rebuild. Like the entire front 7 for starters.

  On 11/20/2017 at 1:29 AM, BuffaloHokie13 said:

That sounds an awful lot like something Shady said earlier in the year...

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You see Richard Sherman’s tweet? I think he knows a little something about QBs.

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  On 11/20/2017 at 1:27 AM, HappyDays said:

 

What we learned today is there is a reason Tyrod holds the ball. No one is getting open. Peterman found that out the hard way, you can’t throw 1-on-1 balls to our receivers. They are simply terrible. In retrospect Tyrod is the only reason we had any semblance of an offense all year long. Dennison’s system is a joke, receivers are a joke, line is a joke. It’s beem proven once and for all Tyrod is at least an average starting QB in this league because no backup QB puts up points in this offense. God help us all if the Bills decide to trade the farm for a QB next year with all these holes.

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Let's not pretend Taylor is flawless just because Peterman had a historically bad first outing. Receivers are open for great quarterbacks even when it looks like they aren't. Peterman was finding guys to throw to for the most part - he just was getting annihilated in the process.

 

In fact, maybe today really did have a silver lining: I never saw Taylor as aggressive with downfield throws in limited time than today. Like he had nothing to lose. (Except for his fumble). Maybe we'll see more aggressiveness from him as a result of the benching.

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  On 11/20/2017 at 1:54 AM, Wayne Arnold said:

 

Let's not pretend Taylor is flawless just because Peterman had a historically bad first outing. Receivers are open for great quarterbacks even when it looks like they aren't. Peterman was finding guys to throw to for the most part - he just was getting annihilated in the process.

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No one is pretending he is flawless. He is a decent starting QB but he needs a system built around him just like any QB. Deshaun Watson and Carson Wentz wouldn’t succeed in each other’s offenses. Didn’t we just fire Rex Ryan for trying to force his system on a defensive roster that wasn’t built for that? Why are we excusing Dennison coming in and designing an offense that doesn’t fit Tyrod’s skill set?

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  On 11/20/2017 at 2:09 AM, HappyDays said:

 

No one is pretending he is flawless. He is a decent starting QB but he needs a system built around him just like any QB. Deshaun Watson and Carson Wentz wouldn’t succeed in each other’s offenses. Didn’t we just fire Rex Ryan for trying to force his system on a defensive roster that wasn’t built for that? Why are we excusing Dennison coming in and designing an offense that doesn’t fit Tyrod’s skill set?

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The weirdest thing is how Dennison seemed to use more bootlegs and rollouts with Peterman than Tyrod which you would assume would fit Tyrod perfectly.

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  On 11/20/2017 at 2:11 AM, Bangarang said:

 

The weirdest thing is how Dennison seemed to use more bootlegs and rollouts with Peterman than Tyrod which you would assume would fit Tyrod perfectly.

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That 3rd down play with Peterman rolling out of the pocket was a big middle finger to the fans

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