Here you can admit that yes, it CAN get worse than Taylor

[transplantbillsfan]

5 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

I saw 2 picks by Peterman that weren't his fault, unfortunately we won't get a chance to see if he can rebound from those mistakes he made and now were going to see Tyrod Taylor, the guy we know can't lead us to the playoffs.

 

I saw 1, but also saw 1 near pick-6 a defender dropped and a botched snap that was Peterman's fault if we're really keeping track of who's at fault for what.

 

Why doesn't this same backwards logic apply for Taylor who would have just 1 interception to 12 passing TDs if Charles Clay didn't let catchable balls bounce through his hands.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

22 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

62 total TDs.

 

20 total turnovers.

 

 

No 15 interceptions and 5 lost turnovers. 20 total turnovers.

 

so do you believe with those outstanding stats he'll lead a team to the playoffs and beyond, you know, a championship? I mean you praise him for his stats yet he has not helped the team to go where it needs to go. I know, it's coaching, bad defense, no wr's so he will likely go down in history just as he is, a stop gap QB with great stats. 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

48 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

One game does not make a career.  Like the Saints game didn't make Taylor.

 

Peterman will get a shot to earn the job.

 

We'll see.

 

If he does, I don't think he wins it.

 

And if he does win it, I don't think he keeps it very long when he faces real NFL regular season defenses and not preseason defenses or his own team's TC defense.

1 minute ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

so do you believe with those outstanding stats he'll lead a team to the playoffs and beyond, you know, a championship? I mean you praise him for his stats yet he has not helped the team to go where it needs to go. I know, it's coaching, bad defense, no wr's so he will likely go down in history just as he is, a stop gap QB with great stats. 

 

 

I don't know what you mean by "lead a team," but yeah Taylor could absolutely be a starting QB for a playoff team.

 

He can't carry a team like Brady, Rodgers or Brees.

 

Give him a top 10-15 defense, an above average OL and a decent running game all in the same season and yes, you get him in the playoffs with a potential playoff win or two.

 

 

Why does this seem so far fetched to some of you? Is anyone seeing what's happened to Dak Prescott without a running game?

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

30 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

We'll see.

 

If he does, I don't think he wins it.

 

And if he does win it, I don't think he keeps it very long when he faces real NFL regular season defenses and not preseason defenses or his own team's TC defense.

 

I don't know what you mean by "lead a team," but yeah Taylor could absolutely be a starting QB for a playoff team.

 

He can't carry a team like Brady, Rodgers or Brees.

 

Give him a top 10-15 defense, an above average OL and a decent running game all in the same season and yes, you get him in the playoffs with a potential playoff win or two.

 

 

Why does this seem so far fetched to some of you? Is anyone seeing what's happened to Dak Prescott without a running game?

 

 

lead > leader of the team

 

why does it have to be far fetched. I pretty much knew you would say he could but you see taylor in a much different light than some so I can see where you would believe he could. 

 

so far in his career it's been nothing but excuses why he can't. maybe when he takes flight to another team he'll have the opportunity but I really don't see it happening in buffalo.

 

edit: I say this not necessarily knocking taylor but feel it will take another two (two drafts) off seasons to get the roster to where they can actually compete for a playoff berth, that is if they manage to succeed at doing so?  I don't see taylor here in 2019/20.

Edited November 24, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[transplantbillsfan]

18 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

 

lead > leader of the team

 

why does it have to be far fetched. I pretty much knew you would say he could but you see taylor in a much different light than some so I can see where you would believe he could. 

 

so far in his career it's been nothing but excuses why he can't. maybe when he takes flight to another team he'll have the opportunity but I really don't see it happening in buffalo.

 

Lead is greater than leader of the team?

 

What does that even mean?

 

 

And if you knew what I would say, why did you ask?

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

15 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Lead is greater than leader of the team?

 

What does that even mean?

 

 

And if you knew what I would say, why did you ask?

 

I don't know, I have heard the term used many times, sorry it confused you.

 

just one example I found out of the many times "lead" has been used when speaking of a QB.

 

 

Drew Bledsoe went down in Week 2 of the 2001 season, opening the door for a young upstart named Tom Brady. Brady went on to upset the St. Louis Rams, lead a dynasty, and star in an UGGs commercial.

 

google list

Edited November 24, 2017 by DaBillsFanSince1973

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He’s certainly leaving (at least at this point). I would think that he goes to a team with a good defense that wants to play ball control.

back to Baltimore ; )

[Iron Maiden]

The ultimate goal is to win a SB....and I don't see Tyrod Taylor QBing the Bills to a Lombardi.....ever....

[3rdand12]

8 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said:

The ultimate goal is to win a SB....and I don't see Tyrod Taylor QBing the Bills to a Lombardi.....ever....

Not with that O line and staff of receivers. No one can.

 Can't hardly judge TT fairly in this offensive Offense

[Iron Maiden]

3 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

Not with that O line and staff of receivers. No one can.

 Can't hardly judge TT fairly in this offensive Offense

 

What do say to the teams TT has played who simply state that the way to beat him is to " make him be a QB " ? We have now heard several teams mention it...going back to last year....don't you think those players know what they're talking about ?

[3rdand12]

That is how you beat him. ask Dennison.

Are the Bills playing to his strengths this year?

[Big Gun]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

62 total TDs.

 

20 total turnovers.

 

 

No 15 interceptions and 5 lost turnovers. 20 total turnovers.

61 TDs and 20 turnovers if you want to get technical and exclude his 2 int and 1 rushing TD in Balt.

 

Whatever fits your agenda I guess. I was just going by his career stats.

[transplantbillsfan]

5 minutes ago, PeterGriffin said:

61 TDs and 20 turnovers if you want to get technical and exclude his 2 int and 1 rushing TD in Balt.

 

Whatever fits your agenda I guess. I was just going by his career stats.

 

Yes, 61 TDs and 20 turnovers in a Bills uniform.

[NoSaint]

No one thinks Tyrod is the worst qb in the league if trying to win next Sunday.

 

if there’s any debate that it can’t get worse than Tyrod - it would center around the question “is giving a viable but below average starter a commitment the worst thing a team can do?”

 

there are a few fair questions around that.

[BringBackOrton]

3 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

No one thinks Tyrod is the worst qb in the league if trying to win next Sunday.

 

if there’s any debate that it can’t get worse than Tyrod - it would center around the question “is giving a viable but below average starter a commitment the worst thing a team can do?”

 

there are a few fair questions around that.

Yes. Fools gold.

[Big Turk]

Ok it can. But what is Taylor going to do other than get us to 7-9 or 8-8 every year? Dude goes from looking pretty good to looking like the worst QB in the league when a defense simply drops 8 into coverage. I mean how do you game plan with that as an OC??

[Big Gun]

53 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

Ok it can. But what is Taylor going to do other than get us to 7-9 or 8-8 every year? Dude goes from looking pretty good to looking like the worst QB in the league when a defense simply drops 8 into coverage. I mean how do you game plan with that as an OC??

Fair and easy question that seems to melt brain cells of a certain group.

[Thurman#1]

On 11/20/2017 at 10:07 AM, Jauronimo said:

I've been arguing this point for years to no avail. 

 

It can always get worse and usually, it does.

 

 

Of course it could get worse. Tyrod's only slightly below average. We could have a guy who was genuinely awful.

 

But actually that would be better, as we'd have fewer wins and a better draft spot. We should've done a total rebuild instead of middling it. When it comes to draft spots, a worse team this year is generally better.

[Thurman#1]

10 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

 And this solidifies the fact that he won't be our long-term answer at QB and forces McBeane's hands even more in the draft to go up and get a QB high.

 

 

 

It certainly does NOT solidify that Peterman won't be the long-term answer. One game, his first? Nonsense.

 

It clearly says he's not ready. And likely makes it even more obvious that they're drafting a QB high, which was something they'd probably have done even if he'd looked pretty good.

 

But this is way too little information to make any kind of long-term judgment on.

 

 

 

On 11/24/2017 at 4:37 AM, Theshallowcross said:

 

This is what makes me laugh about All-22 reviews where the writer will use only 3-4 plays from a game where 60+ plays were run. It's the ultimate cherry pick and a lot of people will eat it up and run with it one way or the other. Whatever fits their own personal agenda and narrative. 

 

Taylor is a good QB. Only in Buffalo is he not valued the way that he should be and I've lost all confidence in the current front office and coaching staff. 

 

 

Yeah, only in Buffalo. 

 

That's why they didn't offer him a contract in Baltimore.

 

He's likely to be a long-term NFL player but unlikely to ever be much more of a long-term career starter than Fitzy or McCown, though a slightly better player than either. Always the guy they're looking to upgrade from. It really is too bad, he's a great person and a hard worker.

Edited November 25, 2017 by Thurman#1

[Kelly the Dog]

10 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

 

It certainly does NOT solidify that Peterman won't be the long-term answer. One game, his first? Nonsense.

 

It clearly says he's not ready. And likely makes it even more obvious that they're drafting a QB high, which was something they'd probably have done even if he'd looked pretty good.

 

But this is way too little information to make any kind of long-term judgment on.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, only in Buffalo. 

 

That's why they didn't offer him a contract in Baltimore.

 

He's likely to be a long-term NFL player but unlikely to ever be much more of a long-term career starter than Fitzy or McCown, though a slightly better player than either. Always the guy they're looking to upgrade from. It really is too bad, he's a great person and a hard worker.

His coaches in Baltimore, Kubiak, and, uh, Dennison, wanted him and offered more money than the Bills, but he thought he had a better chance to play in Buff so he took that offer.