Jackington Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: This game, as awful as Peterman was, doesn't excuse Tyrod's poor play. It doesn't magically make Taylor a good QB. He's still the guy who threw for 56 yards last week, still the guy who holds on to the ball far too long and still the guy averaging 187 yards/game in 2017. Maybe it shows how bad the offense is regardless of qb, eh? Taylor was like a thousand times better than Peterman. You play the best players. Huge coaching blunder. Sometimes you buy a house....
ddaryl Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 13 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: And that anyone saying otherwise knew nothing about how bad Tyrod is and the stupidity of all the experts who don't watch the Bills....... Explain away....... I'm glad we are starting Peterman.. let him learn now in hopes he gets better, but with this OL it might get him killed. this is a lose lose situation for the bills and us fans
Billsfan1972 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Posted November 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Another Fan said: I wasn't adamant but I wanted to see it happen as did 80% of members here in a poll. He wasn't ready. Still part of me still isn't bothered by it, they rolled the dice instead of taking the more established route which very well could have had the same outcome. And the 80% were 100% wrong........... Admit it and move on..... BTW it was not a calculated risk to start Peterman. It was asinine....
apuszczalowski Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 It was a move that backfired badly, but not a bad move. They had to do something to hopefully spark the offence that was not working. They did what a huge percentage of the fans have been screaming for and made the QB change after 2 very bad offensive games. Now those same people that wanted the move are screaming about how they shouldn't have made the move and how it was wrong. Now they know, Peterman was a 5th rounder for a reason and the offence wasn't horrible just because of the QB like many here thought. Things couldn't get worse was a phrase uttered by many here up until yesterday afternoon. I don't blame the coach or front office for making a move to try and shake up a struggling offence
Big Turk Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) Peterman didnt play well but lets not pretend the Bills coaching staff did anything to help him. Chargers have one guy who can wreck a game plan from a passing standpoint in Bosa and they let him go one on one against a rookie LT and a turnstile RT. He was directly reponsible for 3 TOs yesterday. I dont care if you have to triple team that guy on passing downs...he would not have been the reason we looked terrible. Make someone else beat you, not him. The Bills repeatedly want to bring the ball out of the end zone when they are terrible at blocking for returns and either get chopped down inside the 15 or get a penalty to move them back inside the 15. At best they make it to where the ball would have been initially at the 25. Let the ball bounce into the end zone if its near the goal line and take a knee idiot!! The Chargers come out in a dime defense with Bills in 21 personnel on their own 14 yard line. Bills have clear advantage in running game for an easy 8-10+ yard gain on 1st down and what do they do? Throw a 2 yard comeback to a WR that gets picked off. This is DUMB football. The defense is giving you a big gain on 1st down...TAKE IT!! Instead you decide to throw it and them throw a 2 yard pattern??? For what??? I don't what Dennison is looking at on the field...how can you not run the ball against that personnel mismatch with a rookie QB backed up on the 14 yard line?? The Chargers were GIVING you an easy way to get great yardage on 1st down and you inexplicably throw it and then not only throw it throw a meaningless 2 yard comeback. Look at the replay...Chargers 3 man DL were shifted right, the left tackle and left guard had NOBODY to block..a run to the left would have picked up big yards...Mind numbing...just mind numbing for anyone who knows football. Edited November 20, 2017 by matter2003 1
SaviorPeterman Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 16 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: And that anyone saying otherwise knew nothing about how bad Tyrod is and the stupidity of all the experts who don't watch the Bills....... Explain away....... I've already made my peace on the situation and ate crow so to speak. But the bottom line is TT isn't a franchise QB and not taking this team anywhere either so the move to start NP is/was still justified by this regime even though it backfired in spectacular fashion.
Billsfan1972 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Posted November 20, 2017 Blah, blah, blah........ This and listening to those on wgr explaining away 4 interceptions as not being Peterman's fault........ Not one was a difficult int difficult to make...... This team decimated the offense in the offseason leaving only Tyrod, Shady & Clay (btw nice drop on that TD pass) and an OC setting up a scheme that is just lousy.
Chicken Boo Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Jackington said: Maybe it shows how bad the offense is regardless of qb, eh? Taylor was like a thousand times better than Peterman. You play the best players. Huge coaching blunder. Sometimes you buy a house.... Perhaps. I'm not excusing the line or Dennison either.
Billsfan1972 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Posted November 20, 2017 To play Peterman again is unfair to him & Bills fans. He needs to learn and accept it will take time to be an NFL qb.
ndirish1978 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 19 hours ago, jmc12290 said: Did you think I didn't know he threw 5 picks? You didn't know? That makes sense...
K D Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 The OP is a poser. As if you or anyone else knew what Peterman would be. Tyrod was terrible so they gave Peterman a shot. Peterman was even worse. Put Tyrod back in. Who cares. Both QB's are bad and neither will win with this defense so what does it matter? The coach had some guts and decided that anything would be better than what Tyrod was doing and he discovered he was wrong. At least didn't just sit back and go down without a fight. Are they just supposed to sit back and watch Tyrod pass for 50 yards in a game? Get a clue and stop trying to act superior because if it went the other way you wouldn't even be posting
buffaloboyinATL Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 I was fully expecting much more out of Peterman than we saw yesterday, that's for sure. When he had that nice pass to Benjamin, I was getting excited, and then it all came crashing down. I was not calling for Tyrod to be replaced, but when the decision was made, I was hoping for a more consistent passing attack to our receivers. That is obviously not how things went. I still think Peterman may be a decent QB at some point, but I am afraid that he may not be able to bounce back from that performance anytime soon.
buffalobloodfloridahome Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 With how terrible Kansas City is playing we may actually have a chance to win with Tyrod in there. Not because he's a great QB but, because the other team is playing terrible 9 points may actually win it.
Mat68 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 (edited) Something had to be done after the complete give up game Buffalo had at home. Taylor was as oppositely as bad as Peterman was vs LAC. One Qb is so over protective of the ball they refuse to test coverage over 10 yards in a blow out. The other guy who was so aggressive he was throwing punts into the air on third downs. Sitting Taylor made the message pretty loud and clear. I dont care who you are what position, if you dont play the way we expect you to we will put someone else in that will. Now in hindsight the decision looks truly bad. Now after 2 terrible performances for complete different reasons what way does the coaching staff go. To me as a player Peterman looked in over his head. He made some throws that showed promise. Those were far and few and he threw more picks than threw completions that showed promise. If this was a move to send a message to Taylor and the football team it could still makes sense going forward and help the team, but to do so Taylor is obviously the starter for the remainder of the year. If Peterman remains the starter this is a subtle not so subtle tank. Continuing to force the evolution of Nathan Peterman as a NFL QB is looking toward next year and basically throws in the towel for the 2017 Bills. The remainder of the season would be an extended job interview for everyone on the roster. Players that play hard stay the younger guys get some much needed reps and the veteran are gone in March. Edited November 20, 2017 by Mat68
stevestojan Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 20 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: And that anyone saying otherwise knew nothing about how bad Tyrod is and the stupidity of all the experts who don't watch the Bills....... Explain away....... I wanted Peterman because Tyrod threw for 5 yards the week before and consistently ignores looking downfield and when he DOES look, he over- or under-throws regularly. I figured “it can’t get worse.” I was wrong.
Sweats Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 I dont even really care who started, who is going to start or how badly they played. The whole team is just bad and how do you ever just hang that on one guy? With the way the players are playing right now, they dont deserve the criticism.........McD is responsible for it and he needs to own it and fix it.
Billsfan1972 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Posted November 20, 2017 EAs the 6th seed they'd play the Jags.... If there is one team the Bills could beat it is Jacksonville. But does the arrogant HO and coach care?
nedboy7 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 Can’t please a fan base who thinks they deserve Brady and everyone else sucks. Wait for the draft then. Don’t watch a team in the playoff hunt.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 16 hours ago, Bill_with_it said: In the score prediction thread you had it down as a win matter of fact you increased the bills score after the tyrdod benching. What happened since wednesday after the game to make you violate your integrity? Ah the prediction thread. I've beem wrong more often than not on that thread. You caught me. Lock me up. Did I have a loss with TT? I forget. Thank you for paying attention.
JM2009 Posted November 20, 2017 Posted November 20, 2017 9 hours ago, Foxx said: i don't know if i would characterize my opinion as being fairly adamant. i will categorically say that i was wrong though. I wish you had been right. The season is toast now. I don't trust the process anymore.
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