bigduke6 Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 if McD had known ahead of time that Peterman would throw up all over himself in his first start, then started him anyways, that would have been a bad decision. McD couldnt have known that, Peterman has been a solid player all through his college career, beating future NFL talent. Tyrod has been bad. the team was actually winning despite Tyrods play. did it blow up in McDs face? sure, but he had seen enough of his veteran starter...... i cant fault McD for trying.
JohnC Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Zany, ill-conceived, miscalculated, or bone headed. Take your pick, but I can't agree with your attempt to spin this into some effort to turn Taylor into a different player. He read the situation wrong with his belief that Peterman was "ready". He simply was not and it wasn't a shock. It was an egregious decision my the supposedly methodical McDermott in a critical game. In hindsight it was a bad decision. So what? If Taylor would have started do you think the outcome would have been different? Of course it wouldn't. Our defense was atrocious and our offense is limited with or without Taylor taking the snaps. This was a game in which Rivers was seen laughing throughout the whole game. Bosa came off the field laughing how no one even blocked him. The Chargers chuckled their way through this game in both the first and second half of the game. Your fixation on the decision is way out of proportion to the outcome. You accuse me of attempting to spin this situation. That's not what I'm doing. You keep magnifying the issue as if McDermott's qb decision was an act that should be considered disqualifying. That's utter nonsense. The Bills are not now a playoff team and will not be for the near future. So the HC is attempting out of the box decisions that have you in a perpetual scolding mood. For whatever odd reason you are making a decision that didn't work out be not only a threat to collapsing an already faltering franchise but a threat to western society. 2
Southtown Tommy Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 5 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Jeff Tuel had a better first start than Peterman. and what does that prove? hmmmm nothing
Bing Bong Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 21 hours ago, Southtown Tommy said: it.was.his.first.start. it was the worst first start in history.
THEHARDTRUTH Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 We lose by 28 if Peterman starts today. "Ok Nate. One more time. Would you like that meal supersized today. Ok. No problem. Your total comes to 6.25."
Jackington Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 6 hours ago, bigduke6 said: if McD had known ahead of time that Peterman would throw up all over himself in his first start, then started him anyways, that would have been a bad decision. McD couldnt have known that, Peterman has been a solid player all through his college career, beating future NFL talent. Tyrod has been bad. the team was actually winning despite Tyrods play. did it blow up in McDs face? sure, but he had seen enough of his veteran starter...... i cant fault McD for trying. I can. Chargers said they saw it all in preseason and gameplanned from that. Peterman can't handle pressure. And he threw 5 INTs in a half. Imagine if the Bills miss out on the playoffs by 1 game. McD literally will have caused the drought to continue.
bigduke6 Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 (edited) the illusion of playoffs, magical. at any point this season, has this offense, been good enough, to win a playoff game? most important position on the field is medicore at best. we win despite Taylor. if the defense doesnt play like a super bowl calibre defense, we dont win at all. not the recipe for a playoff team. of course, this isnt Taylors fault, its the coaching, lack of talent around him, offensive line, Obama, etc etc etc. Edited November 26, 2017 by bigduke6
Bing Bong Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 7 hours ago, Bangarang said: And? Peterman is bad
Bing Bong Posted November 26, 2017 Posted November 26, 2017 6 hours ago, JohnC said: In hindsight it was a bad decision. So what? If Taylor would have started do you think the outcome would have been different? Of course it wouldn't. Our defense was atrocious and our offense is limited with or without Taylor taking the snaps. This was a game in which Rivers was seen laughing throughout the whole game. Bosa came off the field laughing how no one even blocked him. The Chargers chuckled their way through this game in both the first and second half of the game. Your fixation on the decision is way out of proportion to the outcome. You accuse me of attempting to spin this situation. That's not what I'm doing. You keep magnifying the issue as if McDermott's qb decision was an act that should be considered disqualifying. That's utter nonsense. The Bills are not now a playoff team and will not be for the near future. So the HC is attempting out of the box decisions that have you in a perpetual scolding mood. For whatever odd reason you are making a decision that didn't work out be not only a threat to collapsing an already faltering franchise but a threat to western society. Lol Tyrod has more control of the locker room than McDermott. You think the defense wasn't ready to mail it in when they saw Peterman trotting out second quarter? Maybe we lose that game anyway, but it wouldn't have been because the team knew they had a near impossible task with 5 pick Peterman. Everybody knew Tyrod gives us a better chance to win, and we were/are in the playoff hunt. That's the narrative. McDermott's "out of the box decision" was a monumental screw up. 1
Bangarang Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 40 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Peterman is bad And? What does that have to do with Jeff Tuel?
Bing Bong Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 8 hours ago, JohnC said: So he made a bad decision. Big deal! It wasn't a catastrophic decision because it will have little lasting impact. As it turned out the decision that you considered ill-conceived at least had the positive effect of forcing the reluctant qb to be more aggressive. When a player, at any position, is not playing the way the coaches want him to play then at the minimum it is an understandable decision. You don't have to agree with it. But it was far from being a zany decision. I'm not designating Taylor as the source of all the team's deficiencies. He's playing with a lot of deficient players on his unit. But when a coach gambles to jolt a flaccid offense, even if it is a long-shot effort, I'm not going to make it out to be an outlandish act. It didn't work out for the rookie but it did result in the veteran to play better. The irony is that the HC is criticized for being too conservative and in the same breath is being criticized for being too radical. As far as I'm concerned I'm not bothered that he started the rookie. On the other hand I would have been harshly critical if he wouldn't have started the veteran in the second half and in the following game. It was a horrible decision. And how is that not a big deal? If he's criticized for being too radical in one game, conservative in the next, maybe he doesn't have decision making skills.
JohnC Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 34 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Lol Tyrod has more control of the locker room than McDermott. You think the defense wasn't ready to mail it in when they saw Peterman trotting out second quarter? Maybe we lose that game anyway, but it wouldn't have been because the team knew they had a near impossible task with 5 pick Peterman. Everybody knew Tyrod gives us a better chance to win, and we were/are in the playoff hunt. That's the narrative. McDermott's "out of the box decision" was a monumental screw up. That so called monumental screw up had no bearing on the game because the Bills were going to lose to the better team regardless who played.
billsfan3482 Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jackington said: I can. Chargers said they saw it all in preseason and gameplanned from that. Peterman can't handle pressure. And he threw 5 INTs in a half. Imagine if the Bills miss out on the playoffs by 1 game. McD literally will have caused the drought to continue. So Petermans 1 bad game would cause the drought to continue, but Tyrods amazing 56 yd passing game wouldnt? What about his other trash passing games where the defense and run game had to bail him out?? Theres no guarantee Tyrod beats the Chargers anyway. Sean was asked , what did going back to tyrod do for the offense? His response was "overall Today, Today we played good team offense, we ran the ball well and tyrod used his feet, theres were some good things and it wasnt just 1 guy" Him making a point of saying Today twice and not directly speaking about tyrod, sounds he doesnt care anymore either. Im not judging peterman off a half a game performance like other people. But whether he becomes our starter or gets cut I dont care, im just done with Tyrod. Edited November 27, 2017 by billsfan3482
Bing Bong Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, JohnC said: That so called monumental screw up had no bearing on the game because the Bills were going to lose to the better team regardless who played. True, 5 interceptions probably has no bearing on the game. And football games are always foregone conclusions anyway hahaha. If you're a linebacker watching your idiot coach trot out the same 4 pick quarterback in the second quarter instead of the team captain.. you tell me how your morale would be.
Bing Bong Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, Bangarang said: And? What does that have to do with Jeff Tuel? he's worse than Jeff Tuel?
Southtown Tommy Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 3 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: it was the worst first start in history. You are correct. so am I.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 My IQ dropped reading these last 2 pages.
Bing Bong Posted November 28, 2017 Posted November 28, 2017 I love how everybody's justification for starting Peterman is "we would have lost to the Chargers anyway". The Chargers are world beaters huh? Don't watch football anymore if you geniuses know the outcomes. 1 1
reddogblitz Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 On 11/26/2017 at 6:49 AM, Scott7975 said: Jeff Tuel had a better first start than Peterman. As did Fitz, EJ, Trent, KyleOrton, Shane Matthews, JP, Thaddeus Lewis, Drew Bledsoe, Kelly Holcombe, Flutie, and Rob Johnson. On 11/26/2017 at 2:39 PM, Jackington said: I can. Chargers said they saw it all in preseason and game planned from that. Peterman can't handle pressure. And he threw 5 INTs in a half. It was painfully obvious to anyone paying attention in pre season as opposed to Nasty Nate ball washing as so many were.
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