JaCrispy Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, What a Tuel said: I will say Peterman is starting this week. The coaching staff is trying out their options before we go into next year and cut Tyrod loose. Need to know if Peterman is adequate to keep on the roster. Yet so many people are having such a hard time with this concept...It’s quite entertaining....so many panties in bunches. Edited November 21, 2017 by JaCrispy
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: What did I say that’s not true? He would have avoided the rush like he has all year. 29 sacks in 9 games. 4th most sacked QB in the NFL. FACT 3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Yet so many people are having such a hard time with this concept...It’s quite entertaining....so many panties in bunches. For clarity - Who's panties? People who have had enough with Taylor or the Taylor faithful? You know its bad when people want 5 INT's over TT. [read that heavy on sarcasm] Edited November 21, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan
JaCrispy Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: He would have avoided the rush like he has all year. 29 sacks in 9 games. 4th most sacked QB in the NFL. FACT For clarity - Who's paniies? People who have had enough with Taylor or the Taylor faithful? People that don’t understand why we need to see what we have in Peterman before we draft a QB...it makes little sense to play Tyrod ever again imo...He is gone after this year anyway...Tyrod is a lame duck Edited November 21, 2017 by JaCrispy
Kirby Jackson Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: He would have avoided the rush like he has all year. 29 sacks in 9 games. 4th most sacked QB in the NFL. FACT Literally, any other QB in that spot would have 10 more. Are you really questioning his escapability?!? He’s kept a zillion plays alive. He isn’t good when he drops back 3 steps and releases. When a guy comes free and he can move around he’s dangerous (see the throw to Zay Sunday). The thought that Peterman faced a level of pressure that Taylor hasn’t seen all year is laughable. The next guy is going to see the same without changes to the scheme and personnel.
YoloinOhio Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) I do not think McD or Beane care what the media and fans scream at them in the short term. They didn’t care when they traded Sammy and they don’t care now. I said it then and i will say it again, they are willing to weather the storm now for what they believe is building their vision. That vision didn’t include Sammy and if doesn’t include Tyrod. They don’t know yet if it will include Peterman. So they are trying to find out. I am not saying it’s what I would do. I️ hated the trade and i would absolutely go back to TT at this point if I’m them. But it’s what they have shown since they got there. For better or for worse. Edited November 21, 2017 by YoloinOhio
Kirby Jackson Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: People that don’t understand why we need to see what we have in Peterman before we draft a QB We need to see more of a 5th round pick that has ALWAYS been horrible under pressure, that threw 5 picks in his 1st half (only QB with 5 picks in a half since the merger) to realize what we have in him?!? There is a 0% chance that he is the guy next year (just like there was before the start). Now, if you said “play Peterman to get a higher pick” I’m good. The thought that “we need to see what we have” is absurd. He has A CHANCE to be a backup. He also has a chance to be out of the league. FWIW, I am okay playing Nate but it isn’t some evaluation as to whether we should draft a guy or not. Edited November 21, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
JaCrispy Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: We need to see more of a 5th round pick that has ALWAYS been horrible under pressure, that threw 5 picks in his 1st half (only QB with 5 picks in a half since the merger) to realize what we have in him?!? There is a 0% chance that he is the guy next year (just like there was before the start). Now, if you said “play Peterman to get a higher pick” I’m good. The thought that “we need to see what we have” is absurd. He has A CHANCE to be a backup. He also has a chance to be out of the league. Kirby, listen to what you’re saying...he is a 22 year old rookie playing his first game...players need time for the game to slow down for them...and plus I would like to see a little more- I don’t think the book is written on this guy just yet. Edited November 21, 2017 by JaCrispy 1
PastaJoe Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 18 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: 1) Rating under pressure doesn't put Tyrod on the same level as Brady. Everyone in the league is literally 50 points behind him. 2) Weird, he can't put it in their catch radius, but he's 13th in the league for completion % and a mere 9.6% higher than his replacement on the season so far... You can pad completion stats with the short dump offs he makes because he doesn't trust his ability to throw long or in close coverage. Compare his first two throws to Benjamin vs NO that weren't even in bounds, and Peterman's first throw to Benjamin that threaded in through coverage.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Kirby, listen to what you’re saying...he is a 22 year old rookie playing his first game...players need time for the game to slow down for them...and plus I would like to see a little more- I don’t think the book is written on this guy just yet. Maybe not written but there is 100% chance that they are taking a guy early to be “the guy.” This isn’t about finding out if this guy is the franchise guy. The people that saw the most of him (Blokes and Gunner) said that before the draft. Neither believed he was even worthy of the 5th round spot. He was supposed to be “NFL ready.” That was one of the pros of him coming out. I am fine with him playing and elevating the draft pick but they HAVE to get the guy this year.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I've been saying that all along. NOT SO PETERMAN-LIKE Bills QB Nathan Peterman found himself back on the bench after throwing five first-half interceptions against the Chargers on Sunday. He was much better at protecting the ball during his senior season at Pittsburgh, throwing 27 touchdowns and only seven picks in 13 games.
JaCrispy Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Maybe not written but there is 100% chance that they are taking a guy early to be “the guy.” This isn’t about finding out if this guy is the franchise guy. The people that saw the most of him (Blokes and Gunner) said that before the draft. Neither believed he was even worthy of the 5th round spot. He was supposed to be “NFL ready.” That was one of the pros of him coming out. I am fine with him playing and elevating the draft pick but they HAVE to get the guy this year. I am fine with drafting a guy as well
Bill_with_it Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: We need to see more of a 5th round pick that has ALWAYS been horrible under pressure, that threw 5 picks in his 1st half (only QB with 5 picks in a half since the merger) to realize what we have in him?!? There is a 0% chance that he is the guy next year (just like there was before the start). Now, if you said “play Peterman to get a higher pick” I’m good. The thought that “we need to see what we have” is absurd. He has A CHANCE to be a backup. He also has a chance to be out of the league. FWIW, I am okay playing Nate but it isn’t some evaluation as to whether we should draft a guy or not. Kirby I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with you. Good nugget if wisdom!
unclepete Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 I suspect Peterman doesnfor some reason. We’re already a joke. This decision might be what defines the McDermott era. We lose out this year. Next year we draft a QB and we struggle because we’ve got a young QB. I could see him getting fired after 2 years.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) 58 minutes ago, PastaJoe said: You can pad completion stats with the short dump offs he makes because he doesn't trust his ability to throw long or in close coverage. Compare his first two throws to Benjamin vs NO that weren't even in bounds, and Peterman's first throw to Benjamin that threaded in through coverage. I wasn't the one who said he can't consistently put it in a receiver's catch radius. Sorry your hyperbolic fiction doesn't align with reality. I'm also curious how Tyrod's first 2 throws to Benjamin weren't even in bounds when the 2nd play of the game was a 9 yard completion to KB on a slant. Edited November 21, 2017 by BuffaloHokie13
TheFunPolice Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 McDermott is trapped. ONLY chance he comes out of this looking good is if Peterman starts and plays well this week. Choice A: IF he goes back to Tyrod he's mocked and should have never made the call. Choice B: If he sticks with Peterman and the kid tanks again he's mocked and should have never made the call. Choice C: He sticks with Peterman and the rookie plays well. Only one scenario has a chance for redemption. That's why I could see him sticking with the rookie.
zow2 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 I understand that McD won't be pressured into making a decision against his belief.. BUT, if he had any clue as to the "temperature in the room" he'd go with Tyrod this week. Taylor has played at Arrowhead, he knows the deal, this should be a close game if the D can show up and play a normal game. If he rolls out Peterman then his team will be giving him eye-rolls behind his back and his reputation as a head coach will be seriously questioned even more than it has been. 1
MiltonWaddams Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: McDermott is trapped. ONLY chance he comes out of this looking good is if Peterman starts and plays well this week. Choice A: IF he goes back to Tyrod he's mocked and should have never made the call. Choice B: If he sticks with Peterman and the kid tanks again he's mocked and should have never made the call. Choice C: He sticks with Peterman and the rookie plays well. Only one scenario has a chance for redemption. That's why I could see him sticking with the rookie. Our terrible truth. When a 5th round QB who just set the NFL record for ints in a half can be easily, and most accurately, described as the correct choice to start. I'd rather see Tyrod as I got the sense that he was the far superior player last week and that isn't going to change quickly. However, Peterman is the better choice for the future of this franchise.
Tatonka68 Posted November 21, 2017 Posted November 21, 2017 Tyrod sucks, check down Charlie, ignores wide receivers, and only throws to Tolbert. Forget it. 1
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