Nate Peterman's performance against the Chargers

[HamSandwhich]

2 hours ago, section122 said:

Stop excusing his terrible play!

 

Dont tell me those ints werent his fault.  If we are going to play the not his fault game with ints then Tyrod only has 1 on the year.  Last week and week 1 against the jets were tipped in the air by clay.

 

Don't tell me about how it wasn't his fault the pressure was in his face all dag forcing him into errors if you stated the 7 sacks in the jets game were Tyrods fault.  Maybe as some has proposed Tyrods escapability is a very important factor in making the oline look much better than it is.

 

Don't tell me facing the 3-6 chargers is the same as the 8-2 saints.  One is the hottest team in football and the other is still 2 games under 500

 

Don't tell me they needed to see what they had.  He's a 5th round pick.  A 5th rounder.  Most of the people drafted in his round won't ever start a game let alone a game with playoff implications.  Especially at qb.  They should know from practice what they have.

 

Don't tell me well Tyrod sucks too so they would have lost anyway.  He doesn't and you were just shown what an actual backup qb looks like.  I won't guarantee a win but I will guarantee Tyrod wouldn't have put forth 5 ints in a half.

 

Don't tell me Dennison had a poor gameplan and that isn't Peterman fault.  He's had bad gameplan most of the year.

 

Seriously that was some of the worst qb play I don't know how anyone can defend that play or pretend like he deserves a second chance. 

 

The Bills don't have to skip the playoffs just bc they won't win the super bowl.  3 bad weeks and they are still in the driver seat.  They owe it to Kyle, the fans, every player on that team to try and win.  Tyrod offers the best chance for that.  Peterman should just be cut.  Next year they can draft their qb of the future and let him actually beat out Tyrod not be gifted the starting position bc he fits the idiotic ocs mental picture of what a qb should be.

 

 

But what if I was to tell you...nevermind.

Edited November 20, 2017 by HamSandwhich

[#34fan]

Next up: Logan Thomas!

[HamSandwhich]

Start Peterman again, he had a bad outing.  Yes, a historically bad outing.  He's a rookie and will need to take his lumps.  Tyrod is done here in Buffalo, and with this D and how it's completely pooped the bed, there is no point in going back to him.  Sink or swim rook!  Throw him to the fire!  

 

We need to evaluate all the talent for next year.  

[Ol Dirty B]

53 minutes ago, HamSandwhich said:

Start Peterman again, he had a bad outing.  Yes, a historically bad outing.  He's a rookie and will need to take his lumps.  Tyrod is done here in Buffalo, and with this D and how it's completely pooped the bed, there is no point in going back to him.  Sink or swim rook!  Throw him to the fire!  

 

We need to evaluate all the talent for next year.  

 

Wait so you didn't see enough from today? I've seen all I need to see from him.

 

I'm biased because I didn't like the move, I'll admit that. But I've seen enough.  The guy did stuff that's never been done post merger. He doesn't even know when to take a sack. Doing it once, I'm just talking about lofting up the ball for an interception, ok I get that, you can do that once in a game. Especially if you are panicking about taking a safety. But doing that one mistake twice in addition to all the others. I can't tell if he just has bad judgment, or the games too fast for him. Take the sack. He's awful, he's the worst QB they've trotted out since Hobart. Actually he's the worst. He is the worst, it's that simple.

 

Then the talk about we don't have losses we just have lessons post game ****. Is McDermott really peddling this participation trophy stuff? Someone needs to tell the both of them that they lost and they were horrendous. These are grown men. Clearly I could ramble on more, it's just nuts 

Edited November 20, 2017 by Ol Dirty B

[JMF2006]

12 hours ago, Captain_Quint said:

I don't think he had a foot on the ground with that floater down the middle. Not a good look as far as basic mechanics. 

Is that per qtr or possession?

 

We need to get the QB's to practice with Bosa putting a shoulder to their chest.

 

Maybe if they leaned forward more they could maintain foot contact with the turf

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

11 hours ago, CajunBillsBacker said:

whats the record for most interceptions thrown in a game by a QB? What the hell, let’s go for it!

 

Time to start thinking of packages to move up and grab Rosen.

 

Peterman was the first quarterback since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger to throw at least five interceptions in a first half, according to the Elias Sports Bureau. His three interceptions in the first quarter were the most since then-New York Jets quarterback Geno Smith was picked three times against the Bills in an October 2014 game.

[plenzmd1]

1 hour ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Wait so you didn't see enough from today? I've seen all I need to see from him.

 

I'm biased because I didn't like the move, I'll admit that. But I've seen enough.  The guy did stuff that's never been done post merger. He doesn't even know when to take a sack. Doing it once, I'm just talking about lofting up the ball for an interception, ok I get that, you can do that once in a game. Especially if you are panicking about taking a safety. But doing that one mistake twice in addition to all the others. I can't tell if he just has bad judgment, or the games too fast for him. Take the sack. He's awful, he's the worst QB they've trotted out since Hobart. Actually he's the worst. He is the worst, it's that simple.

 

Then the talk about we don't have losses we just have lessons post game ****. Is McDermott really peddling this participation trophy stuff? Someone needs to tell the both of them that they lost and they were horrendous. These are grown men. Clearly I could ramble on more, it's just nuts 

I thought it was a mistake to take him out of the game. Bills were not winning that game, see if he can recover and make some positive plays. 

 

I would also start him next week. 

 

 

[mannc]

1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said:

I thought it was a mistake to take him out of the game. Bills were not winning that game, see if he can recover and make some positive plays. 

 

I would also start him next week. 

 

 

If they start NP next week, there will be an open revolt in that locker room.  It is not gonna happen.

[plenzmd1]

7 minutes ago, mannc said:

If they start NP next week, there will be an open revolt in that locker room.  It is not gonna happen.

Gotta buy into the process

 

 

Edited November 20, 2017 by plenzmd1

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Gotta buy into the process

 

 

The line for “process” refunds starts around the corner, pal.

[Bill from NYC]

5 hours ago, section122 said:

 

 

Don't tell me about how it wasn't his fault the pressure was in his face all dag forcing him into errors if you stated the 7 sacks in the jets game were Tyrods fault.  Maybe as some has proposed Tyrods escapability is a very important factor in making the oline look much better than it is.

 

 

 

It was an easy conclusion to reach. Those of us who were around for Flutie remember how he thrived on running for his life as well as broken plays. This made life much easier for the inept OL.

Historically, the Bills  just don't place much emphasis on blocking. Sad but true.

[MRM33064]

I can envision McDermott's crew seeing the Chargers, Chiefs, and two games with the Patriots on the horizon, thinking we'd need to score to win those games (even if the defense played better than putrid) and felt pretty certain Tyrod would not be able to do that.     In addition, it seems all but certain Tyrod will not be the 2018 starter.    Enter Peterman.     

 

I think McDermott looked at the situation as one of having very little to lose, and a lot to potentially gain ... but it was a risk.   A big risk.    I agreed with it, and ... well ... it didn't work out.   At least not immediately.    And, it didn't help that what looked like a darn good start was immediately cursed with standard Bills luck: Benjamin immediately hurt, followed by DiMarco blowing an easy catch that (by further terrible luck) turns into a pick-6.

 

I'm as tired of the slump as anyone, but I'm not going to pile on McDermott for not being happy with mediocre, thinking Tyrod probably couldn't put up enough to string some more wins, trying to get better, and having it blow up on him.  At least in the short run.

[Coach Tuesday]

It was an epically bad performance that should be the end of his dream to be an NFL starter.  It reminded me of horror shows we've seen through the years, mostly on other teams - Ryan Lindley, Spurgeon Wynn, Aaron Brooks, Babe Laufenberger... 

 

Peterman showed yesterday that, in addition to being a reckless moron (he just threw balls up for grabs into the middle of the field while under pressure), he can't put any zip on balls to the sidelines.

 

Pete Naterman is not an NFL starter and never will be.

[junyto45]

14 hours ago, NewDayBills said:

He'll be out of the NFL in 2-3 years, after this I just don't see how McDermott doesn't lose the locker room, he looks really really stupid.

Yeah it seems to me this team quit already. The season it's over, which its sad because it started so promising. Three blowouts on a row, the wheels have come off. 

[plenzmd1]

how in the world you can say the Babe was a horror show is beyond me.

[cd1]

11 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

So the Chargers would have had to go a bit longer distance perhaps and maybe scored only 35-40 points? So what? Not throwing picks is great but 3 and outs are killers too. This D is awful right now and Tyrod wasn't scoring any points. He appears to be better than Peterman at this point but you had to try something, because it's not good enough. They can't switch out 5 guys on defense so they changed one on offense. If the team though Tyrod was going to win today the move isn't made. 

 

Peterman got a demon in his head and couldn't shake it.

 

With that said, The Nate Peterman who started yesterday was not the same guy who finished the Saints Game. We don't know if the kid will ever be good but I have to fault the coaching. McD said he alone made the decision, but we know he lies in an effort to be the BIG MAN and take on the criticism when it comes. 

 

BUT, think about it... McD is a defense guy (we should revisit that at another time). What the hell kind of a coach is going to pull switching the QB in mid season WITHOUT consulting the OFFENSIVE coordinator? McD did not make that decision - he just owned it.  

 

DENNISON -  I think Dennison thought that inserting a QB that easily fit Dennison's scheme, would go a long way to saving Dennison's job.  Only problem was that the QB he wanted  struggled right out of the chute.  Instead of easing off on the kid, Dennison kept calling passing plays. 

 

WHEN DENNISON saw kid struggling he should resorted to a much more conservative play calling until that kid got past it. DENNISON hung this kid out to drive because DENNISON was trying to prove it was not Dennison's play calling that is lame.

 

Dennison should be replaced this off season. - IMO

[Cripple Creek]

3 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said:

 

Wait so you didn't see enough from today? I've seen all I need to see from him.

 

I'm biased because I didn't like the move, I'll admit that. But I've seen enough.  The guy did stuff that's never been done post merger. He doesn't even know when to take a sack. Doing it once, I'm just talking about lofting up the ball for an interception, ok I get that, you can do that once in a game. Especially if you are panicking about taking a safety. But doing that one mistake twice in addition to all the others. I can't tell if he just has bad judgment, or the games too fast for him. Take the sack. He's awful, he's the worst QB they've trotted out since Hobart. Actually he's the worst. He is the worst, it's that simple.

 

Then the talk about we don't have losses we just have lessons post game ****. Is McDermott really peddling this participation trophy stuff? Someone needs to tell the both of them that they lost and they were horrendous. These are grown men. Clearly I could ramble on more, it's just nuts 

Seen enough for now? Absolutely.

 

Seen enough for ever? Can't say that.

[Billsfan1972]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

I thought it was a mistake to take him out of the game. Bills were not winning that game, see if he can recover and make some positive plays. 

 

I would also start him next week. 

 

 

They did every time they sent him back out after the second int......  And that pep talk after interception 3 or 4 on the sideline was pathetic.....

[WideRightRevenge]

For only one reason ... improve our draft position .... bottom line .. we don't have a QB ... so why piss away the couple wins Tyrod gets and move down the draft board ... in the rare chance we make the playoffs .. .do we really think this team stands ups to 2 games vs. the Pats?

 

There OL is as bad as I can recall ... between Jets sacks and what we saw yesterday ... DL .... Shaq Lawson actually touched the QB with the ball in his hand ... WOW.

 

We knew when McD and Beane were brought in .. we had a long way to go ... don't let the first 5 wins (a surprise to many on this board .... please look at preseason win estimates) think we were something we're not ... not yet ... all you had to do is look at the roster.

 

Lastly ... not the subject of this thread .. but Sammy is doing nothing in LA ... so stop saying that was a stupid trade.  It was a bad trade up draft pick ... better to move on.

[HappyDays]

56 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Historically, the Bills  just don't place much emphasis on blocking. Sad but true.

 

Neither do Bills fans. There were seriously people arguing that Tyrod was making the offensive line look worse than it was, because he ranks 1st in the stat “time to throw the ball” (never mind that he’s running away from an unblocked defensive end every other play). Anyone that watches other games sees what happens to teams that can’t block. The Cowboys lost their LT and all of a sudden Dak Prescott forgot how to throw the ball. It’s embarrassing that our coaches thought switching out Tyrod would fix the offense’s problems.