ExiledInIllinois Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, Cripple Creek said: So it is a state's rights issue? Show damage it is causing. Why do you think SCOTUS has decided with 230 years of waterway precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: Show damage it is causing. Why do you think SCOTUS has decided with 230 years of waterway precedent. You should take your complaints to the correct forum. Have you no self control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, CountryCletus said: Why would Great Lake states hold more clout that any other state??? The industrial north used too. Now it is the industrial southern states that hold more clout in Congress. Why do you think shipping along with Illinois and Indiana keep winning out? 7 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: You should take your complaints to the correct forum. Have you no self control? Sorry. This topic has been discussed here for decades. Nobody cares. 9 minutes ago, CountryCletus said: I bet I could catch them one after another.... I’m quite the fisherman... maybe your skills are diminishing When they jump, bow them with a compound bow and reel them in. Edited November 18, 2017 by ExiledInIllinois Clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Oh, that kind of lock. I thought he was a locksmith. Thanks for clearing that up. Not sure what pushing an elevator button has to do with fisheries though. A lot. See. This is how ingnorant people are. I blame the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: The industrial north used too. Now it is the industrial southern states that hold more clout in Congress. Why do you think shipping along with Illinois and Indiana keep winning out? Sorry. This topic has been discussed here for decades. Nobody cares. When they jump, bow them with a compound bow and reel them in. We have fought hard for years for equality.... maybe you should kneel for the anthem to raise awareness of the lack of clout that the northern states such as Illinois and Indiana carry... and how do you bow a fish? Wouldn’t a bat be more effective? 24 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: Oh, that kind of lock. I thought he was a locksmith. Thanks for clearing that up. Not sure what pushing an elevator button has to do with fisheries though. You can’t use a push button control on a lock!!! Silly, it’s a hand crank, his arms are sore, that’s why he’s grumpy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Back on subject. They wont come in. Through Lake Michigan that is. Lake Michigan is a desert. There are billions of quagga mussels on the cold, cold bottom. Those mussels eat the same thing as the Asian carp. Few may enter via protecting the Pacific Northwest salmon they stock. Salmon only eat the alwives (another invasive). Alewives eat what the carp eat. They filter feed, vacuum the water column at the top. They won't gain a foothold in cold Lake Michigan. These are riverine, big river, broadcast spawning fish. They need over 60 miles of unobstructed (dam free) swift flowing current (over 10,000 cfs). Then they need a ample backwater, sloughs, etc... To develop. Temps above 70 degrees to spawn. Not happening in Great Lakes. Sure adult fish may make it though here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, CountryCletus said: You can’t use a push button control on a lock!!! Silly, it’s a hand crank, his arms are sore, that’s why he’s grumpy! My bad, I was thinking they operated like an elevator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CountryCletus said: We have fought hard for years for equality.... maybe you should kneel for the anthem to raise awareness of the lack of clout that the northern states such as Illinois and Indiana carry... and how do you bow a fish? Wouldn’t a bat be more effective? You can’t use a push button control on a lock!!! Silly, it’s a hand crank, his arms are sore, that’s why he’s grumpy! No. Illinois and Indiana have the clout. Are you following along. They ship to the South and world. Geeze... You aren't this dense are you? Edited November 18, 2017 by ExiledInIllinois Clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 18, 2017 Author Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Back on subject. They wont come in. Through Lake Michigan that is. Lake Michigan is a desert. There are billions of quagga mussels on the cold, cold bottom. Those mussels eat the same thing as the Asian carp. Few may enter via protecting the Pacific Northwest salmon they stock. Salmon only eat the alwives (another invasive). Alewives eat what the carp eat. They filter feed, vacuum the water column at the top. They won't gain a foothold in cold Lake Michigan. These are riverine, big river, broadcast spawning fish. They need over 60 miles of unobstructed (dam free) swift flowing current (over 10,000 cfs). Then they need a ample backwater, sloughs, etc... To develop. Temps above 70 degrees to spawn. Not happening in Great Lakes. Sure adult fish may make it though here and there. eat more carp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 He is working , that is why he is grumpy. Retirement is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 These use bats too... Go done here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Back on subject. They wont come in. Through Lake Michigan that is. Lake Michigan is a desert. There are billions of quagga mussels on the cold, cold bottom. Those mussels eat the same thing as the Asian carp. Few may enter via protecting the Pacific Northwest salmon they stock. Salmon only eat the alwives (another invasive). Alewives eat what the carp eat. They filter feed, vacuum the water column at the top. They won't gain a foothold in cold Lake Michigan. These are riverine, big river, broadcast spawning fish. They need over 60 miles of unobstructed (dam free) swift flowing current (over 10,000 cfs). Then they need a ample backwater, sloughs, etc... To develop. Temps above 70 degrees to spawn. Not happening in Great Lakes. Sure adult fish may make it though here and there. Isn’t your river and lake so polluted that it’s considered toxic? Love the city, but it makes sense that it’s so toxic because of how dirty things are out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Grind them up. Fantastic fertilizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: eat more crap Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, CountryCletus said: Fixed Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: eat more carp Yes! I agree with you... Having been pushing this the last 2 decades. Where do you think they make gefilte from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Because it is very political. The Great Lakes states have no clout anymore. They are mismanagement of The Lakes by fighting invasives with invasives is leaving the door wide open. In this situation yes. I’m just using the words that you send... are you suggesting Illinois isn’t a Great Lake State???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, mead107 said: He is working , that is why he is grumpy. Retirement is awesome I am not grumpy meade just flabbergasted how uninformed people are. Now here cares. I can talk about this all day. People are idiots and ill informrd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes_region is this still still accurate or is it out of date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Build a wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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