RoyBatty is alive Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: I just looked at the video. Wow. There is something there? Really? He just made a bad joke, and a "black girl" happened to be there hence the stupid joke. To make this an issue just shows how dumb the current PC climate is. I think the PC world has already gotten to a laughable extreme when ESPN pulled a Chinese announcer from a Univ of Virginia game because his name was Robert Lee.
Jerome007 Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: I think the PC world has already gotten to a laughable extreme when ESPN pulled a Chinese announcer from a Univ of Virginia game because his name was Robert Lee. Yeah that was really bad. And without motive. At least here you know that many people dislike the Cowboys and Jones, and that in any case it will draw viewers. But still. Media don't care much about ethics these days.
Dafan Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 Sorry sounded more like he was trying to get the guy recording in crap. Guys making a message for his fiancee at a hotel and Jones is saying hes with another girl.
dulles Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, Laughing Coffin said: What's the big deal? DId he insinuate anything that was racially insensitive? This is just trying to find something to be mad at. The comment infers that there is something uniquely negative based on skin color. This is a racist remark. There is no excuse for it. Jerry is no choir boy, so we should not be surprised. As he gets older and his "filter" gets weaker with age, the Cowboys will just have to invest more resources in surrounding him with people who can try to prevent or minimize these types of things. 3 minutes ago, Dafan said: Sorry sounded more like he was trying to get the guy recording in crap. Guys making a message for his fiancee at a hotel and Jones is saying hes with another girl. He was trying to get the guy in trouble, but in the process he opened up his mouth. He revealed one of two things: 1) a hint of his own thinking or his assumptions about the guy & fiancee - that they would resonate with racist comments. In either case, it is not right. Edited November 18, 2017 by dulles
Jerome007 Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 The comment infers that there is something uniquely negative based on skin color. This is a racist remark. There is no excuse for it. Ha come on. Besides supposing his fiance was White (and maybe he was seeing her on the phone?) you have to really interpret what is saying to find racism. Smart joke? Of course not. But damn people are waaaayyyy too sensitive these days.
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 40 minutes ago, dulles said: The comment infers that there is something uniquely negative based on skin color. This is a racist remark. There is no excuse for it. Jerry is no choir boy, so we should not be surprised. As he gets older and his "filter" gets weaker with age, the Cowboys will just have to invest more resources in surrounding him with people who can try to prevent or minimize these types of things. He was trying to get the guy in trouble, but in the process he opened up his mouth. He revealed one of two things: 1) a hint of his own thinking or his assumptions about the guy & fiancee - that they would resonate with racist comments. In either case, it is not right. You sound pretty outraged about this. Is his apology enough or does he need to be "punished"? ANd no he was not "trying to get him in trouble", obviously it was a joke and Jerry had no idea who the man in question was.
Mr. WEO Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 He could have said "he's here with another woman, ha ha". Instead he chose to say he's here with a black woman--clearly inferring that sounds much worse to a white fiancée.
row_33 Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 You have so little going on that is taking more than 10 seconds of your life?
dulles Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: You sound pretty outraged about this. Is his apology enough or does he need to be "punished"? ANd no he was not "trying to get him in trouble", obviously it was a joke and Jerry had no idea who the man in question was. I'm not outraged. If you met me and we talked politics, you'd get to know that I'm very conservative and this type of thing doesn't trip my trigger. I think the apology is PLENTY. I would suspect the NFL/Goodell may have some interest in the timing of this report. At the very least, it is very helpful to waging the "civil war" which ESPN is reporting between Jerry and Goodell. We most likely differ on what is "racist" and what is not. When I say something is racist, I don't believe that means Jones deserves the death sentence. I actually think that we are more likely to deal with real prejudice if we are more likely to recognize the subtle forms which show up in our lives. To me, this seems to be a subtle form of prejudice. As for "get the guy in trouble" I should have chosen better words. I meant it in a joking, facetious way. I think this is the type of thing that should go away quickly. I just don't think that it goes away quickly by denying the subtly, prejudiced tone of his comment. I think it should go away quickly by apologizing and demonstrating change over time. The problem is our society doesn't like to give time for people to demonstrate change. By extension, our media feed on this and demand punitive action at every turn. 2
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) Very fair and measured response, thanks, nice to have a discussion with people that can control their emotions on touchy subjects. It is going to be interesting to see how the NFL reacts, another no-win situation or the Commissioners, the most maligned sports commissioner in history. If Goodell ignores it and hopes it goes away some will blast him for tacitly condoning the remark. He will likely have to do something. some will say he overreacting some will say he didn't go far enough. Edited November 18, 2017 by RoyBatty is alive add on
Mr. WEO Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 13 hours ago, njbuff said: I'm no fan of Jones, but what exactly did you say wrong? its this anti-Trump country that has all the lunatic liberals, leftists, Democrats, Trump haters........ whatever you wanna call em........losing their minds that have stupid stuff like this coming out. Absolutely nothing to see here. im surprised it wasn't a video accusing Jones of sexual assault.
dulles Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Very fair and measured response, thanks, nice to have a discussion with people that can control their emotions on touchy subjects. Thanks, you too. I don't deal with touchy subjects online very often for that reason.
RaoulDuke79 Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, dulles said: The comment infers that there is something uniquely negative based on skin color. This is a racist remark. There is no excuse for it. Jerry is no choir boy, so we should not be surprised. As he gets older and his "filter" gets weaker with age, the Cowboys will just have to invest more resources in surrounding him with people who can try to prevent or minimize these types of things. He was trying to get the guy in trouble, but in the process he opened up his mouth. He revealed one of two things: 1) a hint of his own thinking or his assumptions about the guy & fiancee - that they would resonate with racist comments. In either case, it is not right. No it doesn't. Maybe thats how you perceive it. If the guy he was making the recording for was black and Jones said "he's with a white girl now" Jones still would have been called racially insensitive because people would still play the race card. You really can't win when you mention skin color. Edited November 18, 2017 by RaoulDuke79
bobobonators Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 Racial jokes are always the funniest. Its a fact.
Mr. WEO Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: No it doesn't. Maybe thats how you perceive it. If the guy he was making the recording for was black and Jones said "she's with a white guy now" Jones still would have been called racially insensitive because people would still play the race card. You really can't win when you mention skin color. Why do, you think Jones chose to specify "black woman"?
RaoulDuke79 Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Why do, you think Jones chose to specify "black woman"? Because he wanted to let the fiance know that her future husband found a better option.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 ....hated this guy from day 1....shows up on the ownership scene and his first move is to kick the legendary Tom Landry to the curb like garbage.......showed this man ZERO respect...
RoyBatty is alive Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 23 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Oh yeah, I have to believe that good ole Jerry has a string of sex indiscretions through the years, maybe Goddells appartchiks in the NFL can dig some up.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Oh yeah, I have to believe that good ole Jerry has a string of sex indiscretions through the years, maybe Goddells appartchiks in the NFL can dig some up. ....isn't that his First Communion picture?...............
RaoulDuke79 Posted November 18, 2017 Posted November 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Oh yeah, I have to believe that good ole Jerry has a string of sex indiscretions through the years, maybe Goddells appartchiks in the NFL can dig some up. This whole feud between Goodell and Jones is gonna be a wild one. Sit back and grab your popcorn.
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