JPicc2114 Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 Terrible move. Sitting in a wild card spot. Putting in a rookie QB. Just when we thought the Bills were getting smart 1
JM2009 Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 We don't know yet. That playoff spot is wide open for the Bills, and if Peterman gets them there, then it's a solid move. If he stinks up the joint, not so much. 2 minutes ago, Mr. Negative said: Terrible move. Sitting in a wild card spot. Putting in a rookie QB. Just when we thought the Bills were getting smart I kinda feel like this. But we'll see. Ending this insane drought to me is the most important thing. Those who say "build a contender"-we may never be a contender again. This is the best chance for a WC in years. 1
Real McClappy Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 34 minutes ago, JM2009 said: We don't know yet. That playoff spot is wide open for the Bills, and if Peterman gets them there, then it's a solid move. If he stinks up the joint, not so much. I kinda feel like this. But we'll see. Ending this insane drought to me is the most important thing. Those who say "build a contender"-we may never be a contender again. This is the best chance for a WC in years. JM, Your still clinging to the inevitable that many told you would be the reality from BBMB days to here. Those who say getting to a WC is all that is important are short sighted and have no vision. Fortunately, this coaching has vision and not the bone headed win now mentality that just inevitably gets them canned. Tyrod Taylor flat out is not a franchise QB for the Buffalo Bills. I could see it in all honesty after his first 8-10 games in 2015. Edited November 17, 2017 by Real McCoy
JM2009 Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: JM, Your still clinging to the inevitable that many told you would be the reality from BBMB days to here. Those who say getting to a WC is all that is important are short sightedand have no vision. Fortunately, this coaching has vision and not the bone headed win now mentality that just inevitably gets them canned. Tyrod Taylor flat out is not a franchise QB for the Buffalo Bills. I could see it in all honesty after his first 8-10 games in 2015. No one has said he is a franchise QB. But 20-18 for an average at best team isn't terrible.Breaking this drought is very important. We have no idea if this HC or management is the answer yet.Boneheaded-being the HC that ends the ridiculous drought would make him a hero. 1
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 as much as some are having a hard time grasping it I believe it was and will be the right decision.
Stank_Nasty Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Cash said: I'm in the 8.3% of people (so far) who said bad move. We'll see - hopefully I'm wrong. For the record, I'm only considering this season/this year's team. It's possible that Peterman is the worst QB since Jeff Tuel and we lose out, but that leads to some franchise savior QB in the draft or whatever. But I choose to hold McDermott accountable to his stated rationale, which is to improve the team now, and I don't think it will. Again, I'll be happy if I'm wrong on this one. Tyrod's play against the Saints was indefensible, and I won't try to defend it. He was terrible. However, I thought he was one of the very few Bills who actually played well against the Jets, and I don't really understand why 2 straight total team collapses seem to be 100% the fault of the QB? Is Peterman going to fix the lack of a pass rush, the inability to stop the run, or the inability of the O-line to run block? Could any QB fix those? Jerry Hughes, Shaq Lawson, Kyle Williams, and Adolphus Washington have been invisible for weeks. If McDermott thinks this team is so much better than 5 wins, where's the accountability for them? there is so much common sense in this post I don't even know how to handle it. 10 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: JM, Your still clinging to the inevitable that many told you would be the reality from BBMB days to here. Those who say getting to a WC is all that is important are short sightedand have no vision. Fortunately, this coaching has vision and not the bone headed win now mentality that just inevitably gets them canned. Tyrod Taylor flat out is not a franchise QB for the Buffalo Bills. I could see it in all honesty after his first 8-10 games in 2015. I know it may be hard for some to comprehend but doing what it takes to sneak into the WC this year doesn't mean that the team would inevitably suffer long term.
rodneykm Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 The key will be if this change forces defenses to respect our passing game. If they do, then it opens up Shady to do what Shady does -- Own.
ThePetermanEra Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 It was a great move, but I think they should have made the move when it was clear that Peterman is better than Tyrod back in August.
Real McClappy Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: I know it may be hard for some to comprehend but doing what it takes to sneak into the WC this year doesn't mean that the team would inevitably suffer long term. Sorry to say 16 years has proven you wrong and that is what should be comprehended with the win now mentality. Knowing who to properly use/spend your many drafts picks next year to build a team can change everything for the future of our team. I'm just glad to see we have a coaching staff and FO that actually understands what needs to happen going forward to make the team better overall. Actually, while typing this I finally now "Trust the Process" seeing what we are trying to do. It's 180* different from all the failed regimes we have entertained post Wade. Lastly, I personally think Nate will play 3X better than Tyrod but that will come in time. Edited November 17, 2017 by Real McCoy
ddaryl Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) If you can't throw for at least 100 yds in any game you play for 3 or more quarters, its a no brainer. Start the next guy heck I'd say in a half of play any QB in this league should be able ot put up 100, unless the running game is working rediculoulsy well Edited November 17, 2017 by ddaryl
Stank_Nasty Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Real McCoy said: Sorry to say but 16 years has proven you wrong and that it what should be comprehended with the win now mentality. Knowing who to properly use/spend your many drafts picks next year to build a team can change everything for the future of our team. I'm just glad to see we having a coaching staff and FO that actually understands what needs to happen going forward to make the team better overall. Actually, while typing this I finally now "Trust the Process" seeing what we are trying to do. It's 180* different from all the failed regimes we have entertained post Wade. correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't sneaking into the playoff with new coach and huge roster turnover be trending in the right direction?... while still have plenty of draft picks to go get whomever they deem fit. what a novel concept.
Real McClappy Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't sneaking into the playoff with new coach and huge roster turnover be trending in the right direction?... while still have plenty of draft picks to go get whomever they deem fit. what a novel concept. Just glad McD doesn't have the same mentality towards this as you. I really don't need to justify it, coach has already given his explanation as to why and I 1000% agree and support his decision. There is nothing Novel or "new" about your concept as it's a proven failed concept many, many times trying to back into the playoffs with a mediocre QB. Edited November 17, 2017 by Real McCoy 1
Stank_Nasty Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Just glad McD doesn't have the same mentality towards this as you. I really don't need to justify it, coach has already given his explanation as to why and I 1000% agree and support his decision. There is nothing Novel or "new" about your concept as it a proven failed concept many, many times trying to back into the playoffs with a mediocre QB. so again I ask... would making the playoffs be a regression? how is it not trending in the right direction? and why does making the playoffs make our ammo in the draft any less valuable or our future any less bright? I guess this all hinges on the topic of the thread. do you actually think the 5th round rookie pans out. I sure would love to think so as a fan of the team but history tells me not to hold my breath. Edited November 17, 2017 by Stank_Nasty
Mad Mike Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 Don't yet know if it's a good move, but it's definitely not a bad move. 56 passing yards is unacceptable for any QB at any level. TT is great at improvising and getting himself out of trouble, but the trouble he's in is usually caused by his lack of anticipation and hesitance to throw to a receiver with a defender anywhere in the same area code. Finally the Bills are not going to "ride it out" with a QB that is not getting it done, and they have the [foot]balls to make a change. 1
Chris66 Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 Bills are a perennial playoff team because they make the smart move. How dare anybody question the head coach that has his NFL resume.
Maine-iac Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 4 hours ago, Bill Murray said: i said "bad move" because we are in the thick of the playoff race. Maybe Peterman is a total stud, but its just so unknown and so it is very risky by definition. If we started TT and lost, then you can move on w Peterman and have plenty of games left to evaluate. If you win w TT you are in very good shape for the wild card. Everyone quick to say "so what if we get in, we wont do anything so will be one and done and be a waste..." tell that to the Tebow led Broncos. Need to get in, then anything can happen. Pretty much sums it up. Not a fan of the timing. Peterman might be better for the coaches.
NewEra Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 61~8 at the time of my vote. I thought it would be a little close. I’m happy with the move mostly because I wasn’t looking forward to going to the game like I should be. Now I’m super pumped. Get the see the new toy on Sunday. Hopefully it’s a shiny toy and not a broken one. It was a tough call to make a switch to a rookie qb with no experience in the midst of a playoff run during an almost 2 decade long playoff drought. Eager to see how he deals with bosa and Hayward. This d is solid. Kudos to McD for pulling the trigger. Whether or not it was the best move to make the playoffs is TBD. ??
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 17, 2017 Posted November 17, 2017 Good move imo, now we get to gauge at the very least if Peterman is a guy we can build around or if we'll be trading the mother load to move up on draft day.
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