Pbomb Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: I am not writing out the names, but one excited poster showed Peterman completing a pass to Benjamin as the greatest example of reading a defense. I decided to see who was on the field for NO...... 21,25,26,50,57,91,92,93 are the #'s I could see....... Checked their stats and seems almost everyone was a non-starter, special teams player...... Congrats our starters (and Peterman now is the starter) had a TD drive vs. their garbage time players.... Cool story. you know who couldnt get a td drive against their garbage time players, tyrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: this should fix it ! sit down the Captain with a winning record. should be fun. edit i like both guys. rooting for the Team ! REALLY - "captain with a winning record"... Which of those wins was Tyrod responsible for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 When Peterman looked good in preseason it was all because he was going up against 4th string guys who we're not even good enough to make a 53 man roster. Last week he looked great against 2nd string scrubs who we're good enough to make the 53. What if he looks good against the 2nd best pass rushing team in the NFL. Can't wait to see what lame excuse we hear then. " they were starters but it was the Chargers"...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: When Peterman looked good in preseason it was all because he was going up against 4th string guys who we're not even good enough to make a 53 man roster. Last week he looked great against 2nd string scrubs who we're good enough to make the 53. What if he looks good against the 2nd best pass rushing team in the NFL. Can't wait to see what lame excuse we hear then. " they were starters but it was the Chargers"...... Nate looked great against scrubs and Taylor looked like crap against starters. QBR of 36 IIRC The same against the Saints too So who won the contest? Edited November 17, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: I am not writing out the names, but one excited poster showed Peterman completing a pass to Benjamin as the greatest example of reading a defense. I decided to see who was on the field for NO...... 21,25,26,50,57,91,92,93 are the #'s I could see....... Checked their stats and seems almost everyone was a non-starter, special teams player...... Congrats our starters (and Peterman now is the starter) had a TD drive vs. their garbage time players.... Okay, so I was curious and went back and looked at Tyrod 3rd quarter and Petermans two drives. 12 different players spotted due to substitutions. Tyrod - defense players 21,25,26,48,50,52,57,91,92,93,95,98 Nate - defense players 20,21,25,26,31,50,51,52,57,83,92,98 There were only 4 players [48,91,93,95] that were in the game for Taylor but not in the game for Peterman. Edited November 17, 2017 by cd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Regardless of what you think of either guy, they just look like different kinds of players....because they are. They are going with a style that fits what the OC does, for better or for worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: You know for a fact? I doubt anyone takes out their starters until mid fourth quarter. If I'm wrong I apologize. It was about half way through the 4th. Tyrod got two drives with less than 10 minutes in 4th. The 3 and outs cause by Tyrod followed by quick Saints TDs caused us to get a lot of 4th quarter possessions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imissbeastmode Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 A lot of those guys were on the field mid 3rd quarter and Tyrod still couldn’t do anything. NO starters were saying that it was easy to stop Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasMac Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: There's different levels of garbage time and who is on the field. Benches are not cleared if it is a 14 point game with 4 minutes left. 44 points with 8 minutes left is garbage time...... Again if TT was so inept that he couldn't make a read or audible at the line then you are right. I just can't believe he made the same mistakes for 2.5 years with no growth. I blamed the OC..... I can see the OC argument with the exception that he just doesn't look any better at all. He still does the same exact things that he has always done. Doesn't throw with anticipation, sits in the pocket too long or scrambles out of it way before he needs to, and now he's become captain checkdown 3.0. I've been rooting for him and hoping to see improvement but it just isn't happening. Teams have figured him out. It's just about having the personel to take away his strengths and keep him from scrambling. I thought it would take a cpl more weeks before the change but I'm glad to see that the coach made the change. I think it will be for the better win or lose. Edited November 17, 2017 by DallasMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaviorPeterman Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Fully aware that NP's body of work thus far has been preseason and garbage time but Taylor has also shown he's incapable of processing NFL defenses and making NFL throws regardless of whether it's early in the game or garbage time like the last few weeks. I think some folks are going to be pleasantly surprised when they see NP go against a complex NFL defense and be able to read it quickly and also change plays at the line of scrimmage as coverage dictates. The offense he played in at PITT was as close to an NFL system you'll find in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 hours ago, cd1 said: Okay, so I was curious and went back and looked at Tyrod 3rd quarter and Petermans two drives. 12 different players spotted due to substitutions. Tyrod - defense players 21,25,26,48,50,52,57,91,92,93,95,98 Nate - defense players 20,21,25,26,31,50,51,52,57,83,92,98 There were only 4 players [48,91,93,95] that were in the game for Taylor but not in the game for Peterman. Yeah so? they are still professional football players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Watching Taylor play 3 qtr's was garbage time for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simool Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said: I am not writing out the names, but one excited poster showed Peterman completing a pass to Benjamin as the greatest example of reading a defense. I decided to see who was on the field for NO...... 21,25,26,50,57,91,92,93 are the #'s I could see....... Checked their stats and seems almost everyone was a non-starter, special teams player...... Congrats our starters (and Peterman now is the starter) had a TD drive vs. their garbage time players.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 2 hours ago, cd1 said: Okay, so I was curious and went back and looked at Tyrod 3rd quarter and Petermans two drives. 12 different players spotted due to substitutions. Tyrod - defense players 21,25,26,48,50,52,57,91,92,93,95,98 Nate - defense players 20,21,25,26,31,50,51,52,57,83,92,98 There were only 4 players [48,91,93,95] that were in the game for Taylor but not in the game for Peterman. Thank you.... never been a fan of selective "statistics". It puts the OP in perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: This is sad. Please accept that Tyrod Taylor got benched and that Nate Peterman is starting this Sunday against the Chargers. whats even sadder ... if Nate sucks that bad what does that say about Tyrod? That he has won 20 out of 38 real NFL games, and that this offense doesn't highlight what he does well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, JM2009 said: That he has won 20 out of 38 real NFL games, and that this offense doesn't highlight what he does well. I think the Jets and Saints highlighted what he doesn't do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, JMF2006 said: I think the Jets and Saints highlighted what he doesn't do well. He wasn't the reason we lost the Jets game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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