boyst Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 hours ago, SDS said: If they were truly legit then just let me know and I will restore them. You had about 44. Wait, is this a real thing? Not points taken, but a butthurt bumpkin #feeling sad he got his happy faces taken? Awe, Cleti is mad 11 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Companies in this country have it easy when it comes to PTO/sick time. **** wait until you have to manage someone under intermittent FMLA. Nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, BuffaloBill said: Being one of the people who generally leaves time on the table, it is because I choose to put my job as a priority, The truth is there are a spectrum of reasons for this being true across a large group of people. To your implied point, the perception of employer pressure is one of them. I once worked for a company that offered 15 days a year PTO. Problem is, you could never get them to approve the scheduled time. If something is offered, but you can't use them, what good is it? Edit: clarification: you couldn't use your time from Oct-Jan at that workplace. "business needs" Edited November 16, 2017 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Wait, is this a real thing? Not points taken, but a butthurt bumpkin #feeling sad he got his happy faces taken? Awe, Cleti is mad Let’s not let this thing get further out of synch with what was originally intended. The thread was started in fun. The humor had run it’s course and the thread needed to die. 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: I once worked for a company that offered 15 days a year PTO. Problem is, you could never get them to approve the scheduled time. If something is offered, but you can't use them, what good is it? In all honesty you had either a bad boss, bad employer (or both). I agree if they are there you should have the opportunity to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Let’s not let this thing get further out of synch with what was originally intended. The thread was started in fun. The humor had run it’s course and the thread neede to die. In all honesty you had either a bad boss, bad employer (or both). I agree if they are there you should have the opportunity to use them. And that's what my point is. In this country, there's an emphasis on businesses and business owners, and not on employees. It's the opposite of the rest of the developed world. Edit: I'm not saying I know what the answer is here, only that the reason people abuse sick time is because of how many employers handle PTO. Edited November 16, 2017 by joesixpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, joesixpack said: And that's what my point is. In this country, there's an emphasis on businesses and business owners, and not on employees. It's the opposite of the rest of the developed world. Edit: I'm not saying I know what the answer is here, only that the reason people abuse sick time is because of how many employers handle PTO. Understand your points. There also tends to be cyclical trends with this kind of stuff. People become more liberal in their use of time off in a stronger job market. It’s pretty simple, if you’re not concerned about job security you are probably a little more lax when it comes to bending or breaking the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Understand your points. There also tends to be cyclical trends with this kind of stuff. People become more liberal in their use of time off in a stronger job market. It’s pretty simple, if you’re not concerned about job security you are probably a little more lax when it comes to bending or breaking the rules. Yeah, I hear you. My ex is a teacher. Those people with tenure and union protection abuse the rules on the regular. A lot of them get away with **** that just wouldn't fly in the private sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: Yeah, I hear you. My ex is a teacher. Those people with tenure and union protection abuse the rules on the regular. A lot of them get away with **** that just wouldn't fly in the private sector. Are you anti-union? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) A tactical point: I always liked going with the vague "stomach not so good..." type excuse. This conjures hints of things that people are unlikely to want details about . The causes could be various and you have some flexibility with the timeframe. Is it viral? Something you ate? Who knows? I haven't taken a sick day in over two years, but I always support someone's right to take the occasional "mental health" day if they feel the need. As long as it's not all the time and doesn't screw over coworkers too bad, I don't see it as a problem. Edited November 16, 2017 by Cugalabanza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 45 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Wait, is this a real thing? Not points taken, but a butthurt bumpkin #feeling sad he got his happy faces taken? Awe, Cleti is mad **** wait until you have to manage someone under intermittent FMLA. Nightmare. Crawl your way back over to PPP where you belong.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, CountryCletus said: Crawl your way back over to PPP where you belong.... They're too smart for me there. I can't keep up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: They're too smart for me there. I can't keep up! I wish I could disagree with you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 25 minutes ago, CountryCletus said: I wish I could disagree with you.... ...but? Why can't you?? I don't get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: ...but? Why can't you?? I don't get it? Oh... um.... no reason... hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, CountryCletus said: Oh... um.... no reason... hahahaha Awe. Well you calling me dumb makes me sad. Can I have a side hug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: Awe. Well you calling me dumb makes me sad. Can I have a side hug? Maybe SDS or Jack will give you one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I used to work for a company that PTO and Sick Days were separate. PTO could carry over until you reached a certain number of days (I think it was about 4 weeks worth). Sick Days you would lose at the end of the year. So I, and others, would check with the boss if it was okay that we would "be sick" some day coming up. He would generally agree that it was okay, just remind him the day before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 Wow this thread was a major flopperoni....sigh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Boyst62 said: Awe. Well you calling me dumb makes me sad. Can I have a side hug? 1 minute ago, CountryCletus said: Maybe SDS or Jack will give you one ? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CountryCletus said: Maybe SDS or Jack will give you one ? I'm holding out for @Beerball The last true moderator Edited November 16, 2017 by Boyst62 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryCletus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Boyst62 said: I'm holding out for @Beerball The last true moderator Interesting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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