Kirby Jackson Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Luka said: He shopped around last year and came up snake eyes. Now with even more terrible performances under his belt people think he will be in the mix to start somewhere else? Get the fork out. That’s not totally true. He didn’t want to leave and knew that he could stay even if it meant a reduced rate. That whole “nobody wanted him narrative” is false.
JohnC Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s not totally true. He didn’t want to leave and knew that he could stay even if it meant a reduced rate. That whole “nobody wanted him narrative” is false. What isn't false is that nobody wanted him at his original contract. He took a reduced rate with Buffalo because he had no other choice if he wanted to stay.
CommonCents Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 The FA QB market is going to be fully stocked this offseason, it will be intresting to see what situation he ends up in.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, JohnC said: What isn't false is that nobody wanted him at his original contract. He took a reduced rate with Buffalo because he had no other choice if he wanted to stay. That’s not necessarily true either. He wanted to be here and kind of bet on himself. He would have played for more money if he hit FA and was open to leaving.
Luka Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s not totally true. He didn’t want to leave and knew that he could stay even if it meant a reduced rate. That whole “nobody wanted him narrative” is false. I'm not buying it. Every other Bills player offered the same or more money in the offseason bolted. He wasn't going to be a starter anywhere else, that's why he stayed. We were the only ones willing to say "You'll come into camp as the starter." I don't care what the media says, he just isn't good.
CardinalScotts Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 doesnt have to go anywhere...bills hold the option and were talking about 2018. Hope he stays if not dont really care where he goes. Lets grab this playoff ticket this year
JohnC Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s not necessarily true either. He wanted to be here and kind of bet on himself. He would have played for more money if he hit FA and was open to leaving. I respectfully disagree that there was a demand for him at the original contract rate. However, what is known for sure is that the Bills under Whaley and McDermott were not going to keep him under his original contract. That's known for sure.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Luka said: I'm not buying it. Every other Bills player offered the same or more money in the offseason bolted. He wasn't going to be a starter anywhere else, that's why he stayed. We were the only ones willing to say "You'll come into camp as the starter." I don't care what the media says, he just isn't good. You trust your info and I’ll trust mine then. 3 minutes ago, JohnC said: I respectfully disagree that there was a demand for him at the original contract rate. However, what is known for sure is that the Bills under Whaley and McDermott were not going to keep him under his original contract. That's known for sure. See above
GoBills! Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 I'd say Houston would be a good spot backing up Watson, similar style just not as good as Watson. After that its wide wide open jax, Miami, Tennessee, Cleveland, jets. He could start somewhere but he is a plug like fitz and Josh McCown.
BADOLBILZ Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s not necessarily true either. He wanted to be here and kind of bet on himself. He would have played for more money if he hit FA and was open to leaving. Why wouldn't he have bet on himself in Buffalo right? The way he finished the 2016 season he was confident and comfortable. He had Watkins coming back healthy and had no reason to suspect he'd be sharing a backfield with Mike Tolbert. McD really did him dirty since he re-worked that contract. 1
Kirby Jackson Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: Why wouldn't he have bet on himself in Buffalo right? The way he finished the 2016 season he was confident and comfortable. He had Watkins coming back healthy and had no reason to suspect he'd be sharing a backfield with Mike Tolbert. McD really did him dirty since he re-worked that contract. Then he just lied to him on Sunday. He really hasn’t been treated very well.
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: The only thing with Baltimore is that the Flacco contract is such a problem. They are kind of stuck with it even if they wanted to get out from under it. Regardless, doubtful Taylor gets starter's money wherever he goes.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Regardless, doubtful Taylor gets starter's money wherever he goes. He’s getting $10M at least. That isn’t happening in Baltimore.
BADOLBILZ Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Then he just lied to him on Sunday. He really hasn’t been treated very well. So much of what McD has done since he got here has been utterly counter-intuitive. There was really nothing to gain by undermining Taylor.
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s getting $10M at least. That isn’t happening in Baltimore. I feel like that's his current cap hit, so I'd put him more at the $8M area. Then again, QB prices go up every year...
Billznut Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 29 minutes ago, CardinalScotts said: doesnt have to go anywhere...bills hold the option and were talking about 2018. Hope he stays if not dont really care where he goes. Lets grab this playoff ticket this year He’s due 18 mil next season. Zero chance the Bills will pay him that much to be a backup. He ain’t coming back.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I feel like that's his current cap hit, so I'd put him more at the $8M area. Then again, QB prices go up every year... Hoyer was guaranteed $9.85M, Glennon got $18.5M guaranteed, Fitz got $10M last year, etc... He’s not playing for less than $10M. Edited November 15, 2017 by Kirby Jackson
BADOLBILZ Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Billznut said: He’s due 18 mil next season. Zero chance the Bills will pay him that much to be a backup. He ain’t coming back. I wouldn't say zero but right now looks highly unlikely. If he gets back in and leads some kind of heroic run to 9-7 and wins a wildcard game on the road or something......they will probably be in mind-change mode again. If Peterman does a face plant McD will be in a quandary. Especially having passed on Watson and Mahomes. Oy vey some of the personnel decisions this year.
Big Gun Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Boyer was guaranteed $9.85M, Glennon got $18.5M guaranteed, Fitz got $10M last year, etc... He’s not playing for less than $10M. You're right he's not playing. He might back up somewhere, at this point he's not better than any starter, he just got benched for a 5th round rookie. What other starters have been benched for 5th round rookies and have gone on and been effective elsewhere? (Bledsoe wasn't benched)
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