HansLanda Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 Good dude, great teammate. But when you have people in the fanbase and in the media that either love him or hate him, that alone tells us that he's a middle of the road guy.
papazoid Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 don't go to far TT one hit away from being back in. besides, it is possible we play worse with peterman
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 I agree with others, he's been a class act here and seems like a great locker room guy but as a QB who need to be able to go through all the progressions and hit your targets and he doesn't do that. It would be awesome if Peterman shows us right off the bat that we can build around him, I'm not expecting it but if it were to happen it would be a great relief and we could use those draft picks as a building block (WR/OL) or (WR/TE), many different scenarios.
Patrick Duffy Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, 4_kidd_4 said: Byerod. Look like dat fiah be done went out mane. He aint cookin no more mane!
4_kidd_4 Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Patrick_Duffy said: Look like dat fiah be done went out mane. He aint cookin no more mane! lost dat OOOMPH!
Patrick Duffy Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, 4_kidd_4 said: lost dat OOOMPH! yeah he got dem slow eyes mane
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 36 minutes ago, papazoid said: don't go to far TT one hit away from being back in. besides, it is possible we play worse with peterman it could. well have to wait and see.
LA Grant Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 Instead of "Thank You" this should be "Sorry, Tyrod -- you got a pretty raw deal"
Albwan Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 maybe they can open up the old forums again, the rage and bickering over tt imho was what brought that site down
Alphadawg7 Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, T-Bomb said: I liked Tyrod, but he just could not deliver the ball to NFL WR's. It's a shame because he has such great physical tools to work with. He seems like a good guy, must be a hard day for him. Classy post! Tyrod has been a highly debated topic here, but one thing for sure is that he gave everything to this team and his opportunity. The players love him in the locker room and he's made a lot of great plays and done a lot for this team during his time here in Buffalo. I was a big proponent of bringing him back as he wasn't the reason we missed the playoffs last year, it was the atrocity of a defense that Rex put on the field that was our weakest part. That being said, Tyrod was never that guy who could or would carry a team, but he is a guy you can win with behind a good D and run game. At the same time, he still had a lot to prove on the field as a passer and until he did that he was never going to be a long term solution. He needed to see the field better, use more of it, and get the ball out quicker and with more anticipation. The FO made his life a lot harder with the trading of Sammy and putting very little out there for him to throw to. Then injuries to his more talented guys like Jordan and Clay further impacted it. However, he showed signs of improvement early that were encouraging when the team as a whole was playing well, especially with the D. However, once the D collapsed and reverted to 2015/2016 form a few weeks ago, the team no longer had the balance that could put Tyrod in position to win games and his weaknesses became much more of a liability. While showing some growth in seeing the middle of the field and using more of it, the one area he made no progress in was getting the ball out quicker. And with an OL thats getting abused, this is a death nail to the offense as the only counter is to get rid of the ball on a quick drop back. So, thank you Tyrod for putting all you had into this team and opportunity and being the best QB we have had since Kelly. Its been a roller coaster, but I have enjoyed the ride and I feel confident you will get another opportunity somewhere to start fresh and compete for a starting position. And maybe it will be a better situation where you aren't saddled with all the hurdles you were dealt here in Buffalo to give you the best chance at success. I will cheer for you to succeed, except when you play the Bills. Edited November 15, 2017 by Alphadawg7
ProcessTheTrust Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 While many always tried to divide Tyrod by "haters" vs "lovers", I never subscribed to that nonsense. I always liked the guy, could see the talent was there, but pulled my hair out watching him play overly conservative. He was a great mysterious back up for Flacco all those years, got his shot to be THE GUY, didn't pan out. Now he can go back to being a really solid back up somewhere. Wish him the best....but we must move forward!!! 1
Alphadawg7 Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, ProcessTheTrust said: While many always tried to divide Tyrod by "haters" vs "lovers", I never subscribed to that nonsense. I always liked the guy, could see the talent was there, but pulled my hair out watching him play overly conservative. He was a great mysterious back up for Flacco all those years, got his shot to be THE GUY, didn't pan out. Now he can go back to being a really solid back up somewhere. Wish him the best....but we must move forward!!! Exactly how I and most people felt. I often got lumped into "TT lover" or "CoT" comments because I would argue against some of the nonsense that was spewed regularly. But my stance stayed consistent...he was a guy we could win with in a situation where our D was solid and run game prominent. He was never going to be able to carry a team offensively on his own with the flaws in his game, but could lead us to points and wins on a balanced team, which he has done. But, to be a long term solution he was ALWAYS going to have to earn it on the field this year by showing growth in his 3 major weaknesses: Seeing the middle of the field. Using the whole field. And getting the ball out quick with anticipation. At times this year, it seemed to show flashes of growth in 2 of those areas, but the one area that really never showed any improvement is getting the ball out quick with anticipation. And with a struggling run game and an OL that started strong and plummeted to pitiful, this was a huge problem. I think TT can and should compete somewhere to be a starter in this league once he is done in Buffalo. If we are being unbiased and honest about his time here then its safe to say he was not put in a good position to succeed. Between bad coaching, changing OC's, injuries/trades fielding weak group of receivers most games, and a defense that has mostly been at the bottom of the league in every category for about 90% of the games he started. None of that matters in terms of the areas he was weak, but it also is a lot to over come and deal with for any QB. I will be very interested to see where he ends up, and personally I think Denver is going to be highly in play for him to come in and compete for the job. I doubt he is handed any starting job, but I think he will not be in Buffalo next year and will get a shot to compete somewhere next year.
ProcessTheTrust Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Exactly how I and most people felt. I often got lumped into "TT lover" or "CoT" comments because I would argue against some of the nonsense that was spewed regularly. But my stance stayed consistent...he was a guy we could win with in a situation where our D was solid and run game prominent. He was never going to be able to carry a team offensively on his own with the flaws in his game, but could lead us to points and wins on a balanced team, which he has done. But, to be a long term solution he was ALWAYS going to have to earn it on the field this year by showing growth in his 3 major weaknesses: Seeing the middle of the field. Using the whole field. And getting the ball out quick with anticipation. At times this year, it seemed to show flashes of growth in 2 of those areas, but the one area that really never showed any improvement is getting the ball out quick with anticipation. And with a struggling run game and an OL that started strong and plummeted to pitiful, this was a huge problem. I think TT can and should compete somewhere to be a starter in this league once he is done in Buffalo. If we are being unbiased and honest about his time here then its safe to say he was not put in a good position to succeed. Between bad coaching, changing OC's, injuries/trades fielding weak group of receivers most games, and a defense that has mostly been at the bottom of the league in every category for about 90% of the games he started. None of that matters in terms of the areas he was weak, but it also is a lot to over come and deal with for any QB. I will be very interested to see where he ends up, and personally I think Denver is going to be highly in play for him to come in and compete for the job. I doubt he is handed any starting job, but I think he will not be in Buffalo next year and will get a shot to compete somewhere next year. I would agree with Denver except I wonder if Elway is tired of trying to squeeze by with this formula of dominant D, running game, and game manager QB. He struck gold and won it all but that formula hasn't worked for the same team to win it all 2X...maybe ever? My money would be on them making a move to get a potential franchise guy this draft. Meanwhile, I'm dreaming of us not having to play that game knowing we already have him!!! No clue if that's the case but so happy we can find out. Edited November 15, 2017 by ProcessTheTrust
Alphadawg7 Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, ProcessTheTrust said: I would agree with Denver except I wonder if Elway is tired of trying to squeeze by with this formula of dominant D, running game, and game manager QB. He struck gold and won it all but that formula hasn't worked for the same team to win it all 2X...maybe ever? My money would be on them making a move to get a potential franchise guy this draft. Meanwhile, I'm dreaming of us not having to play that game knowing we already have him!!! No clue if that's the case but so happy we can find out. Yeah, I can definitely see Denver drafting a guy, but I think they will bring Tyrod in still to compete with what ever rookie and internally hoping Tyrod can at least be effective for a season so they can let the rookie sit and develop. Elway is a QB, and an old school one too...I think he sees value in bringing one along slowly and would prefer someone like TT to keep the team competitive while they develop the kid to hopefully take over at a later date. There are some other teams that could be in the market for TT, but I think Denver has a good enough team to win now and TT would be an upgrade over the train wreck of a QB situation they currently have. But yes, still expect them to draft someone as well, probably even high in the draft.
NewEra Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 Thanks Tyrod. You made some runs only 1 other QB in history could’ve made. I appreciate your hard work and respect you as a competitor. My advice to you: take more chances and let it rip, especially on 3rd down. No more throwing 7 yards short of the stick. I wish you success in the future, just not against the Bills or playing for an AFC team.
ctk232 Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) I wish for him nothing but the best. But who knows, they might bring him back in depending on how Peterman does. Let's assume we part ways with TT though: A real class act and great personal story. I have tremendous respect for him and I don't even know the man personally. He wasn't the first QB to be told he was too small, and he still managed to make enough waves in the NFL to give us something we've all been holding onto: hope. Regardless of how you feel about his ability/play, as a QB he hasn't changed the organization, but he did give us chances. The only thing that will make this truly depressing is when NE picks him up in the offseason after we let him go. Edited November 15, 2017 by ctk232
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 2 hours ago, JPP said: they are the exception......most running QB's are not long term successful.... aren't running QBs the exception to begin with?
Jerome007 Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 3 hours ago, MarlinTheMagician said: Don't want to prematurely end his time in Buffalo, but I am thankful to Tyrod for all he put into this team. Class act all the way and helped stabilize the position. I have been a defender, but even I cannot criticize this move. TT seems chronically unable to get the ball out. I was screaming in the NO game "throw an interception if you have to for chrissakes - just throw it!" Exciting, positive, hard-working player. Thankful for the thrills and the effort. I agree with you 100%! First and foremost, as you state first, he might not be done in Buffalo just yet! It depends on how Peterman pans out! Just like I wished TT lit it up, I wish the same for Peterman but let's wait till he plays shall we? Just like you I wished he would have gone for it and throw some contested balls to WR when behind on the scoreboard. I looooooooved his protecting the ball in close games or while ahead, and even the "haters" will soon realize how great he was at that, but when behind, WTH! It's like his TD-Int ratio stats mattered more than winning, and that's inexcusable. Throw it! So he didn't throw INTs... yet he threw away his starter status. He sure gave us some thrilling moments, more than any QB since Flutie, but his lack of improving and conservatism did him in. But again, we might see him again if Peterman fails. So in essence, I wish the Bills made the right switch. With so much $$$ due to TT in 2018, he had to show without the shadow of a doubt he was THE man, and he didn't. So he might have be gone anyway. Much better for the team to see what NP has got! The one thing I dislike, is reading "TT wasn't a good fit in a "Dennison offense". Grrrr. The coaches have to adapt to the players they have dammit!
Johnny Hammersticks Posted November 15, 2017 Posted November 15, 2017 I love me some Tyrod Taylor, but this is clearly the right move for the franchise. Hats off to McBeane for having the sack to make this move. He certainly is a class act, and I think he still has a solid career ahead of him (although likely as a placeholder or a backup). I make it a point to bring my son (7 years old) to at least one training camp session each year. Not this past summer but the one before, I brought him to an afternoon session. Every year he has gotten at least a few autographs. Well this time when the horn sounded to end practice, the whole team ran up the tunnel and to the locker room. The only player who stayed to sign autographs was Tyrod. There were probably 150 people there waiting for an autograph, and he stayed until each and every one of those people got an autograph, a hand shake, a picture...whatever. He even ran over to mid-field to grab his gloves out of his helmet, and gave them to a disabled young man who was patiently waiting in his wheel chair. He earned my unconditional respect on that day. I wish him the best. 1
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