Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 I think we lose another close game in LA where Taylor fails to move the offense consistently again for the third straight week. We make the switch to Peterman and shock the world at Arrowhead. The rest is history.
CommonCents Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Looking back at the start of Drew Brees' career, he did not come in and set the league on fire right away. He had similar credentials to Peterman. His college was not a big time producer of NFL QBs (Illinois - I think). He's undersized and was not regarded as having a canon for an arm. What he was was a smart QB who could see the field, make quick reads and make quick throws with good accuracy, not unlike Peterman. I think he was drafted by the Chargers, but never got a chance to start with them. He was traded to the Saints, where he was given a chance to start and made the most of it. His career path debunks the notion I saw from one poster that if a QB has a starter's ability the coach of the team that drafts him is going to recognize it and start him sooner rather than later. Coaches don't like the uncertainty involved with making a change at QB and will often hold on to an ineffective starter because he is at least a known quantity. Purdue.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, Believer said: The Saints pass rush was not pressuring Peterman... He had plenty of time to throw, unlike TT... he released almost instantly on his drop backs. Even with a pass rush the ball would have been thrown!
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Commonsense said: Purdue. LOL. And the poster "thinks" he was drafted by the Chargers but never got a chance to start for them.
DallasMac Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, TigerJ said: Looking back at the start of Drew Brees' career, he did not come in and set the league on fire right away. He had similar credentials to Peterman. His college was not a big time producer of NFL QBs (Illinois - I think). He's undersized and was not regarded as having a canon for an arm. What he was was a smart QB who could see the field, make quick reads and make quick throws with good accuracy, not unlike Peterman. I think he was drafted by the Chargers, but never got a chance to start with them. He was traded to the Saints, where he was given a chance to start and made the most of it. His career path debunks the notion I saw from one poster that if a QB has a starter's ability the coach of the team that drafts him is going to recognize it and start him sooner rather than later. Coaches don't like the uncertainty involved with making a change at QB and will often hold on to an ineffective starter because he is at least a known quantity. Purdue was where he went to school. He had 4 or 5 seasons in San Diego that were pretty good. I think it was the shoulder that scared teams.
Elite Poster Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 The anti-Tyrod. Flush him out of the pocket and he will fall apart. He doesn't have the arm strength to throw on the move and does not have the athleticism to make a play on the ground. These highlights are no better than pre-season. They did not gameplan for #2, they did for #5.
4merper4mer Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 If you don't think his noodle arm will result in at least 2 picks per game in the early part of his career you are delusional. He would have thrown 5 yesterday. 1
Roundybout Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, Elite Poster said: The anti-Tyrod. Flush him out of the pocket and he will fall apart. He doesn't have the arm strength to throw on the move and does not have the athleticism to make a play on the ground. These highlights are no better than pre-season. They did not gameplan for #2, they did for #5. His arm looked plenty adequate to me....
Elite Poster Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: His arm looked plenty adequate to me.... Another guy who has watched him throw the ball all of 15 times. Watch what he did in college. Also, did any of these throws have any zip? They were all touch passes.
Bray Wyatt Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, DallasMac said: Purdue was where he went to school. He had 4 or 5 seasons in San Diego that were pretty good. I think it was the shoulder that scared teams. He was also signed as a FA as San Diego went with Rivers over Brees, plus Brees had the surgery on his shoulder and people were unsure how he would respond to it. I remember that year he and Daunte Culpepper were the big FA Qb's, we got lucky that Miami signed Culpepper and not Brees
Roundybout Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Elite Poster said: Another guy who has watched him throw the ball all of 15 times. Watch what he did in college. Also, did any of these throws have any zip? They were all touch passes. I watched a lot of tape, both the good (Clemson) and the bad (Miami). I think he has plenty of arm strength. It's not like he's Brad Kaaya.
Elite Poster Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: I watched a lot of tape, both the good (Clemson) and the bad (Miami). I think he has plenty of arm strength. It's not like he's Brad Kaaya. He really doesn't. I am not saying he can't make good throws or that he will be a bust and never have success in this league. He doesn't have great velocity on these throws. He consistently has balls that fly all over the place (happened throughout preseason too) because he's putting everything he can on these intermediate distance plays. All I am saying is this thread is pretty stupid. You can't compare garbage time for a QB that was not gameplanned for to the team's starter. He made a couple decent throws. Whatever. I want to see what he looks like when other teams know what his weaknesses are and go after that.
BigBuff423 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 58 minutes ago, Woodman19 said: It's weird to see a QB drop back, make a read and then just throwing before there is any pressure. +1
HappyDays Posted November 13, 2017 Author Posted November 13, 2017 22 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: All it proves is that Bills fans are desperate for anything, and get excited over something that proves nothing. It means he is just like almost every other backup QB that has come in and thrown a few good passes to get a garbage time TD. How did his second drive go? His 2nd drive was the one where he scored his TD, or did I miss something? I’ve watched plenty of backup QBs come into a game and fall flat on their faces. No one is saying it proves anything but it sure was promising. I loved the pick when we made it and I feel even better about it now. 1
CommonCents Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: His 2nd drive was the one where he scored his TD, or did I miss something? I’ve watched plenty of backup QBs come into a game and fall flat on their faces. No one is saying it proves anything but it sure was promising. I loved the pick when we made it and I feel even better about it now. Wait a minute. You saw promise in Peterman but up until week 6 or so of this season you were being critical of Carson Wentz?
Sky Diver Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Gruden loves Peterman and I think it's safe to say that Gruden knows more about QBs than any of the armchair coaches here. https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Bolt/Nate-Peterman-gets-the-nod-as-Jon-Grudens-Top-QB-in-NFL-Draft-52378356 I don't know if he will be a long-term starter or not, but it's stupid to write him off.
Noogie75 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: https://youtube.com/watch?v=NXibjvq9LyE&feature=youtu.be&a= I turned the game off at the end of the 3rd quarter so I hadn’t see Peterman’s passes. I came away from this video very impressed. I know, I know. It’s garbage time, some of the Saints backups were on the field, they didn’t game plan for Peterman, etc. Say what you will, he makes good quick decisions and he is mostly accurate. His first drive would have kept going if Benjamin doesn’t drop the ball on 3rd down or if Dennison remembers you can pass the ball on 4th and short. His 2nd drive is an impressive looking TD drive where even the incompletion to Thompson shows promise (good pre-snap read and a quick throw that he just misses with Thompson getting mugged). I think Tyrod goes to a different team next season that is willing to design an offense around his skill set. If this is the offense we are going to run, Peterman seems to fit it better. If the pass game looks bad against the Chargers I don’t see any reason he shouldn’t get a shot. Remember when you thought I was crazy this spring. Ain't I a genius? People thought bad of Cardale for this.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Woodman19 said: It's weird to see a QB drop back, make a read and then just throwing before there is any pressure. +1 more
Perk71 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 38 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: All it proves is that Bills fans are desperate for anything, and get excited over something that proves nothing. It means he is just like almost every other backup QB that has come in and thrown a few good passes to get a garbage time TD. How did his second drive go? Mechanics
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