CircleTheWagons99 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 The only thing i can think of is that we, The Fans, have seen TT for 3 years and the coaches only 9 games?
Bangarang Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The MVP award is like the Oscars. Tom Brady is the MVP and it isn’t close. Maybe. But maybe he isn’t?
writer21 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 I saw him look off the safety, make an audible, throw with anticipation, trust his receivers to make a play and got Benjamin involved soon as he got in the game. I mean are we trying to win or stick by players who are just not getting the job done. Every position on the Bills is evaluated except QB in Buffalo and I don't understand why.
nucci Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 23 minutes ago, cd1 said: Not necessarily. With Peterman, opposing teams can't just crowd the line like they do with Tyrod. Opposing team (just like the Saints did) have to play back and respect that the QB is NOT AFRAID to throw the ball. THAT alone will help the running game! I would like a QB other than Taylor as well but saying the Saints dropped backed off in coverage because of Peterman...come on. It was 47-3...what did you think they would do.....play 9 guys on the LOS?
writer21 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: Look how quickly he runs the no huddle as well. Every time Tyrod is in this situation he takes 30 seconds to get up to the line and run the next play Noticed that too as well. Honestly everything that a QB is supposed to do Tyrod fails at. He is a good athletic QB that can run and scramble and possibly beat you over the top. But that's clearly not what this offense is about. I don't think he is accurate enough to make tight window throws and his anticipation and possibly reading the defense is below average. I mean they don't even trust him to audible but you got rookies audibling all the time. If you continue to start Taylor and lose from here on out, well then you deserve it Bills. I hope I'm wrong. Lets be honest, if I was playing defense for this team I would call it a day early because I know my QB can't do squat from behind.
Gavin in Va Beach Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 40 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: The coaches have watched Peterman through OTAs, minicamps, training camp, preseason, and now into the regular season. If they thought he was better, he'd be playing. Time to draft a potential franchise QB. I don't buy that reasoning for a second. NFL Coaches, by and large, are some of the most cowardly bastards on the planet. They HATE to make changes and they HATE to take risks. Why do you think so many of them punt on 4th and 3 even when playing from behind? Right now McDermott is like "well, if we play Tyrod and lose too much and miss the playoffs, my exposure to criticism is minimized because I stuck with my starting QB. Tyrod will get the bulk of the blame, we can cast him off in the off season, and try again with someone new in 2018". If he makes the move to bench Tyrod for Peterman now and it doesn't work, he'll get ALL the blame. Tyrod will look like a victim of a bad coaching decision and Peterman will look like a victim of being thrown to the wolves while he was still too raw. It would truly take a coach with balls to make the decision to bench Tyrod at this point in the season. Seriously though, does anyone think Belichick would still be playing Tyrod? Me either. 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Gavin in Va Beach said: I don't buy that reasoning for a second. NFL Coaches, by and large, are some of the most cowardly bastards on the planet. They HATE to make changes and they HATE to take risks. Why do you think so many of them punt on 4th and 3 even when playing from behind? Right now McDermott is like "well, if we play Tyrod and lose too much and miss the playoffs, my exposure to criticism is minimized because I stuck with my starting QB. Tyrod will get the bulk of the blame, we can cast him off in the off season, and try again with someone new in 2018". If he makes the move to bench Tyrod for Peterman now and it doesn't work, he'll get ALL the blame. Tyrod will look like a victim of a bad coaching decision and Peterman will look like a victim of being thrown to the wolves while he was still too raw. It would truly take a coach with balls to make the decision to bench Tyrod at this point in the season. Seriously though, does anyone think Belichick would still be playing Tyrod? Me either. Hard to say. I think Belichick would have gone down with the ship with Bledsoe. !@#$ing Mo Lewis.
Steptide Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Well McDermott is gonna stick with Tyrod. This coukd turn into a crap show real quick
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 If nothing else let's see if were building around Peterman next season or were giving up the motherload for a franchise guy in the draft, I'd try and find out now but until this team is out of playoffs I doubt they make the move.
njbuff Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 We are all tired of seeing Taylor. We know how that movie ends. Unfortunately, the HC doesn't know this and gives Bills fans serious questions about the HC's ability to attain the "process". When you get destroyed the last two games like the Bills have............... that means there is a serious problem here and it starts with the QB position. It was Taylor's fault in NJ, but he certainly was a BIG part of the problem yesterday. A QB change can spark the entire team or officially end it. The Bills need to take that risk.
Royale with Cheese Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Steptide said: Well McDermott is gonna stick with Tyrod. This coukd turn into a crap show real quick We would still be right in the thick of the playoff race if we do lose to the Chargers but if Taylor lays another egg, especially in the passing game where we gave him a shiny new toy in Benjamin......will he be able to keep firmly saying "Tyrod is our starter"?
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Tyrod playing well doesn't look like a typical NFL QB playing well. Therein lies the problem. NFL defensive coordinators are smart. They have now devised schemes to stop the things TT does well by having the DL play him differently than a traditional QB. They have, in a sense figured him out. That is a huge issue going forward. Tyrod's play hasn't changed much if at all. The defenses have changed and adapted. So those games indeed did happen and TT gets credit for it. From now on , it appears this is the type of defense Taylor is going to see, forcing him to stay in the pocket and throw. The results are alarming. Great post. I had the opportunity to watch TT in person for the first time against the Raiders. I left the game very unimpressed, although the Bills dominated every phase of the game. It was enlightening to watch from a different perspective at the stadium. The Bills 2017 receiver group is without question one of the weaker groups in the league. TT must be graded fairly with that taken into consideration. While the receivers sometimes struggled during that game, I saw a QB who almost NEVER makes a quick read. This has been an issue throughout his career. O Line struggles have also contributed to making his indecisiveness even more constant this season. TT choose to bounce outside of the pocket nearly every play against the Raiders, after giving up on his first read. This is due to his inability to throw with anticipation, and fit the ball into tight windows. One play against the Raiders summed up TT’s style, the touchdown throw to Holmes on the sideline. It seemed to be a great throw and catch. Everyone was happy, and we were on our way to the playoffs. The truth is that TT missed a wide open Holmes crossing in the center of the end zone. He bailed out of the pocket, right when Holmes got open. TT scrambled making a great throw to Holmes for the TD. A difficult throw and catch that should have never been so challenging. This happens with TT on a regular basis. These are the type of plays that good defenses don’t allow TT to make. Keep him in the pocket, and the plays he makes never happen. Sometimes you need to play like a typical QB to be a winner. TT doesn’t have the ability to do so. His success depends on specific sets of circumstances that don’t present themselves frequently. Edited November 13, 2017 by DriveFor1Outta5 1
John from Riverside Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 This is the thing about Peterman One of the things that is not being talked about is that a lot of us like Tyrod's wheels (probably the best in the league) but the fact is.....Nathan Peterman has a pretty good set himself....AND he throws a accurate well timed ball. I was all in on Tyrod last year......and I really wanted him to succeed this year......but when I watch the offense start to stutter and I start to think about a change
QCity Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 It's refreshing to see a receiver come out of his break and the ball is already there.
The Now Moment Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: This is the thing about Peterman One of the things that is not being talked about is that a lot of us like Tyrod's wheels (probably the best in the league) but the fact is.....Nathan Peterman has a pretty good set himself....AND he throws a accurate well timed ball. I was all in on Tyrod last year......and I really wanted him to succeed this year......but when I watch the offense start to stutter and I start to think about a change That's what makes him perfect for this system. He's mobile and accurate within 20 yards.
GoBills808 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said: Pass to Matthews at the 13 is money. That was the pass that impressed me most. Stuck his back foot into his drop, released before Matthews was out of his break, hit him in stride for extra yards. Total professional throw. You get the ball out in time, suddenly your offensive line looks a lot better and the timing with the wideouts isn't disrupted.
Alphadawg7 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 What to really take away from NP time on the field: 1. Cant put too much stock in it with a blow out loss, backups and soft D. 2. You can see the ability to get the ball out quick and on quick strikes. I still have my doubts he is ready to start a game in the NFL, but the one thing I think that was refreshing was the Brees like drop and release, a guy he patterned his game off of. I get lumped into some kind TT lover category by a few people who never stop railing against him, however, I have said MANY times over that TT deserved to start this year, but had a lot to prove in order to keep that job. And I am also on the record of liking Peterman. At this point, its about how I predicted it would go. TT would and should start until he either earned the job moving forward, got hurt, or the Bills were likely out of the playoff race where then Peterman should finish the season. I also said that likely wouldn't happen until after week 10. At this point, I think Peterman has shown enough to warrant consideration in a game as early as this week in SD to be an option at halftime if TT and the offense struggle in what really is a must win game given our remains schedule. I think there is 0% chance Peterman starts this week outside injury, but a very poor half by TT and I think there is a chance they throw NP out there to see if he can spark the offense against starters. 1
Roundybout Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Who really cares what this team does at this point? Sinking ship per the norm in November. is this the response you give now that you see Tyrod ain't getting it done?
NewEra Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: This is the thing about Peterman One of the things that is not being talked about is that a lot of us like Tyrod's wheels (probably the best in the league) but the fact is.....Nathan Peterman has a pretty good set himself....AND he throws a accurate well timed ball. I was all in on Tyrod last year......and I really wanted him to succeed this year......but when I watch the offense start to stutter and I start to think about a change Didn’t think I’d hear you say that, but it’s pretty obvious that starting Peterman could be a great move. Our offense has been a laughing stock for the last 2weeks. Because teams are forcing tyrod to be a qb, the running game has no chance. They aren’t afraid of the pass, rightly so. I’m not saying Peterman is going to be the next Tom Brady, but We have to do something to get this offense moving. I’m assuming they’re just going to make some play call changes and hope for the best, but I’d rather see what Peterman can do for a game at least. Feel bad for tyrod as he was looking a bit improved, but something has to change if we’re serious about making the playoffs.
Royale with Cheese Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: That was the pass that impressed me most. Stuck his back foot into his drop, released before Matthews was out of his break, hit him in stride for extra yards. Total professional throw. You get the ball out in time, suddenly your offensive line looks a lot better and the timing with the wideouts isn't disrupted. Then it just didn't happen again after that.
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