Niagara Dude Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) At the end of day yes the Bills have many holes to fill, but you need to first fix the biggest problem we have moving forward and that is QB. The 49ers who traded for Garoppolo should end up with a top 3 pick and could be our trading partner so we can grab one of the top QB'S available. How many times has this franchise been distracted with filling other holes and have avoided going all in to get a franchise QB. TT is not the answer and we need to move on, just look at free agent WR'S who avoided signing here because they know he is useless. Time to go all in and get the best one available and i am ok with (2) # 1 draft picks and a second plus another second the following year if required, use other picks and free agency to fill out front seven and other positions and go from there. A franchise QB is the foundation of any winning team and we have not had one in a long time. Edited November 13, 2017 by Niagara Dude 1
Roundybout Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Are the QBs this year worth a massive trade? Mayfield is really growing on me (and Falk had another great day) but is he worth the cost to trade with SF?
ALF Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 McD passing on Mahomes and Watson scared me . I hope he has a better QB to target or Peterman is the lottery ticket . I hate the price of trading up unless you see another Goff or Wentz , that I can't judge.
brianb386 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Are the QBs this year worth a massive trade? Mayfield is really growing on me (and Falk had another great day) but is he worth the cost to trade with SF? I don't think there is any reason to believe this is a particularly weak QB class. The wait 'till next year thing is not going to get it done. We need to trade up and get our guy. We've waited 20 years to get a middle of the road guy in Taylor, who is never going to get us over the hump. The team needs to go all-in on finding their guy. Attempting to win with a run-first offense has gotten us nowhere.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, ALF said: McD passing on Mahomes and Watson scared me . I hope he has a better QB to target or Peterman is the lottery ticket . I hate the price of trading up unless you see another Goff or Wentz , that I can't judge. I mean - he's not a scout and we didn't have our real GM at that point. So I'm fine with taking a safer approach to the draft and getting scheme and leadership fits in year 1. Year 2? We need to bring in a QB.
HumbleAndHungry Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Giants could surpass 49ers for 2nd pick. In that case I think Rosen and darnold are both gone
May Day 10 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 7 minutes ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: Giants could surpass 49ers for 2nd pick. In that case I think Rosen and darnold are both gone Im actually terrified of Rosen.
Real McClappy Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, dneveu said: I mean - he's not a scout and we didn't have our real GM at that point. So I'm fine with taking a safer approach to the draft and getting scheme and leadership fits in year 1. Year 2? We need to bring in a QB. We had Whaley whom wanted to draft Watson. Let see what Beane has in store though. All I can hope on now is that NP turns into QB gold. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/4/8/15225118/buffalo-bills-doug-whaley-possibly-in-love-with-deshaun-watson-nfl-draft-2017
Jobot Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ALF said: McD passing on Mahomes and Watson scared me . I hope he has a better QB to target or Peterman is the lottery ticket . I hate the price of trading up unless you see another Goff or Wentz , that I can't judge. Mahomes is a backup qb that hasn't proven anything. 11 other teams also passed on Watson.
4merper4mer Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 As long as we trade up into the top 3 it doesn't matter who we take. He will be awesome.
thenorthremembers Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Before we can think of trading up we need to get out of the twenties for both of our picks. Hard to tell at this point, but if the season ended today I imagine we would have picks 21 and 25, the highest we could get with those two picks is #6 overall and in that scenario you're probably gunning for the third rated QB, I imagine this is Rosen or Mayfield. I understand the trust the process stuff, but this is what happens when you try and win now and later, you cant serve two masters. Quote
poblano Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: Giants could surpass 49ers for 2nd pick. In that case I think Rosen and darnold are both gone So you could may trade Eli and take your chances
nucci Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) Why do we have to trade up to top 3 to get a QB? Could have picked Deshaun Watson at 10 Edited November 13, 2017 by nucci
BeginnersMind Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 Give me an arm and a guy who can read a defense. QBs are hard to pick.
DefenseWins Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 So if we only win like one more game and finish at 6-10 where do you think we might draft? Top 12?
xRUSHx Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, May Day 10 said: Im actually terrified of Rosen. Rosen would be a HOF QB here IMO. Edited November 13, 2017 by xRUSHx
Luka Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: So if we only win like one more game and finish at 6-10 where do you think we might draft? Top 12? Top 10 most likely.
The Now Moment Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ALF said: McD passing on Mahomes and Watson scared me . I hope he has a better QB to target or Peterman is the lottery ticket . I hate the price of trading up unless you see another Goff or Wentz , that I can't judge. Mahomes hasn't done anything so...as for Watson, I think they felt it would've been redundant getting him. His play was similar to Tyrod's. Shorter QB with at the time accuracy issues and scrambled a lot. That probably raised red flags to them. It potentially ended up being a mistake. However, look at all of the running QBs that have come out of the draft lately. A lot of them seem to be getting hurt frequently in the early part of their career. Maybe they wanted a pocket passer instead.
JMF2006 Posted November 13, 2017 Posted November 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ALF said: McD passing on Mahomes and Watson scared me . I hope he has a better QB to target or Peterman is the lottery ticket . I hate the price of trading up unless you see another Goff or Wentz , that I can't judge. You know what really surprised me? KC trading(reaching) up for a QB when they really needed LB or Edge rusher help. They have a serviceable QB and could have waited another year. Thanks KC for the freebie
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