BuffaloBaumer Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 This team was never going to make the playoffs, it's just as well they lose as many as possible right now anyway
K-9 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, jmc12290 said: We've been punished for 3 years for letting St. Doug go. Enough is enough! Just for the record, St Doug quit. We didn’t let him go.
BringBackOrton Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, K-9 said: Just for the record, St Doug quit. We didn’t let him go. We could have met his demands, but we didn't.
oldmanfan Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Not apologizing for anything. Dareus got a big contract and underperformed. And when challenged by his coaches went backward. you honestly think he would have been the guy to play inspired football today?
Kirby Jackson Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: We could have met his demands, but we didn't. That’s fake news. He tried to double down on the contract and it didn’t work. He thought he’d get $4M from the Bills and the same from the Jets. He would have been the highest paid coach in football if his plan worked.
BringBackOrton Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: That’s fake news. He tried to double down on the contract and it didn’t work. He thought he’d get $4M from the Bills and the same from the Jets. He would have been the highest paid coach in football if his plan worked. He demanded an extension for himself and his staff or he would walk. You think if the Bills gave him that, he still would've walked? Interesting thought, but I disagree,
The Frankish Reich Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 41 minutes ago, Real McCoy said: Last season, last Season: Blah, blah blah blah...poop under a **** coach and **** 3-4 D scheme that did not fit any of our players strengths, Dareus included. Right. I mean, didn't Jay Ajayi put up two 200 yard games against us?
Kirby Jackson Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, jmc12290 said: He demanded an extension for himself and his staff or he would walk. You think if the Bills gave him that, he still would've walked? Interesting thought, but I disagree, That’s bs, he was trying to get paid by both teams. The Bills were idiots for the way they structured the contract but St. Doug was only concerned with St. Doug.
Peter Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Boy, it sure seems as the "process" outsmarted itself.
THEHARDTRUTH Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 30 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Nope, I call them like I see them. Exactly what I feared would happen, happened. I’ve always said that you can’t just jettison talent because you don’t like the personality. It is a mix. The Bills have been punished for a terrible decision. It was bad at the time and looks worse now. Feel free to look at his performance post 100 million dollar deal and tell me he was worth that kind of money. I could use a good laugh right about now.
stinky finger Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 1 hour ago, simool said: Apologize for what? His inability to not smoke pot, race cars, break rules, and his inability to play up to his contract. Seriously?
BringBackOrton Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: That’s bs, he was trying to get paid by both teams. The Bills were idiots for the way they structured the contract but St. Doug was only concerned with St. Doug. \ Edited November 12, 2017 by jmc12290
Kirby Jackson Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, THEHARDTRUTH said: Feel free to look at his performance post 100 million dollar deal and tell me he was worth that kind of money. I could use a good laugh right about now. Watch the run defense today and pretend you know what you are talking about. 2 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: \ That’s not even info. Everyone knows that. He thought he had the Jets job and the Bills were paying him regardless of what he did.
THEHARDTRUTH Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: Watch the run defense today and pretend you know what you are talking about. Answer the question! Explain how hes worth 16 million a year! Edited November 12, 2017 by THEHARDTRUTH
Rocbillsfan1 Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 They traded Dareus in order to get rid of his contract. There was zero reason to do this in the middle of a playoff run. Yes he wasn't living up to his contract but it's hard to say that he was playing awful, he just was playing like an average DLman which made everyone mad. Add up his offield troubles and I get whey you want to get rid of him in the offseason, but it was a 100% mistake to get rid of this player in the middle of the year. This leads me to believe that McBeane made a huge error in talent assestment and thought the other guys on the line could just come in and carry the load and they have shown to be absolutely garbage the last two weeks. This scares me about him evaluating othe positions in the future. 1
Kirby Jackson Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, THEHARDTRUTH said: Answer the question! Explain how hes worth 16 million a year! When you already paid it?!? Do you understand how the cap works?!? They are eating a ton of dead money on Dareus. That was my issue with the trade. He had to remain on your roster through next year. It was FOOLISH to dump him.
THEHARDTRUTH Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Rocbillsfan1 said: They traded Dareus in order to get rid of his contract. There was zero reason to do this in the middle of a playoff run. Yes he wasn't living up to his contract but it's hard to say that he was playing awful, he just was playing like an average DLman which made everyone mad. Add up his offield troubles and I get whey you want to get rid of him in the offseason, but it was a 100% mistake to get rid of this player in the middle of the year. This leads me to believe that McBeane made a huge error in talent assestment and thought the other guys on the line could just come in and carry the load and they have shown to be absolutely garbage the last two weeks. This scares me about him evaluating othe positions in the future. Mcbeane made exactly the right decision. You dont pay average players 16 million a season. Dareus was getting paid for his first five years in the league. Not his last two plus.
The Frankish Reich Posted November 12, 2017 Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Rocbillsfan1 said: They traded Dareus in order to get rid of his contract. There was zero reason to do this in the middle of a playoff run. Yes he wasn't living up to his contract but it's hard to say that he was playing awful, he just was playing like an average DLman which made everyone mad. Add up his offield troubles and I get whey you want to get rid of him in the offseason, but it was a 100% mistake to get rid of this player in the middle of the year. This leads me to believe that McBeane made a huge error in talent assestment and thought the other guys on the line could just come in and carry the load and they have shown to be absolutely garbage the last two weeks. This scares me about him evaluating othe positions in the future. I do think there's a little something to this. Clearly dumping Dareus was more about the future; McBeanes couldn't have thought that the Thornton-Worthy-Adolphus trio could perform even up to the unmotivated Dareus level. But I do think that when McD started phasing a healthy Dareus out (in favor of Thornton), he became convinced that the dropoff wasn't that huge ... kind of a hill and not a cliff. We now know better. It's a cliff. Not because Dareus was still great (as in 2014 great); because Thornton-Worthy-Adolphus are really that bad.
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