Anybody thinking our wins look a little less impressive...

[MAJBobby]

3 hours ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

At the time, the wins over Denver, Atlanta, Oakland, and Tampa Bay looked like signature wins.  But those teams are not living up to expectations this season - none is above .500 right now.

 

With 6 of our final 8 games against teams currently .500 or better are we about to get gut-punched back to reality?

 

I'm trying to trust the process and not compare to past Bills teams, but it's tough...

 

Wins are wins. Style points matter nada. So that being said you need 5 more of them to be sure of playoffs 

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

I'm hoping, though, that the Bills are actually getting better as the players learn to execute the schemes of the new offensive and defensive coaching staff.  Theoretically, we're better now than when we beat what turned out to be weak Denver and Atlanta teams.  

 

That's the part I'm taking heart in - that we're improving with the new schemes, and that the playbooks will evolve as we master the basics.

[leonbus23]

Those wins still look pretty good. We are at par with some average teams. Atl, Oak, NY, and even Den may finish at or above .500. Essentially, we beat teams that are about as good as us. Car. looks better and Cinc looks just slightly worse. Now is the time we beat some truly good teams in NO, NE*, and KC. We win a couple of those, we can rise a bit above the pack. Incidentally, we can still lose all of those games and simply beat the average teams left on the schedule and still make the playoffs (SD, MIA, MIA, and INDY). 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2017 by leonbus23

[Bray Wyatt]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

My expectations were pretty low for this season. I expected to rebuild on both sides of the ball toward the new scheme and standards and hopefully look relatively competitive and show signs of progress toward the future; that the team and org are on the right track. Record doesn’t really matter to me this year . I never thought the team would make the playoffs and I still don’t, but outside of the game on the short week they have showed up and competed hard or won the games and it’s to the point where looking at the rest of the conference, if they get a few breaks they might be a huge surprise playoff team. It’s crazy considering the perception of this team and where they were after the Sammy trade, etc. 

This sums up my feelings pretty well

[Jerome007]

The difference between winning and losing are slim. Last year, with REX RYAN at the helm, throw in a few challenges done, 11 men on the field in overtime, and some made field goals, and the Bills were in the Playoffs. This year the Pats got two gifts: one by the refs against the Jets and the other with the Bucs' kicker. Are they just lucky then? They could be 4-4!

 

It is very possible the Bills miss out again this year, BUT, I can't stand the attitude of conceding the Pats the 2 games before even playing them! Nor the defeatism. Bills have many lingering issues. They lack depth. Take away Shady and ouch. But reading some posts here, it's like the other teams have all great depth, their QBs never throw bad passes, their coaches are always perfect, they can all withstand the injury bug. Get real.

 

Last game was scary though. NOT the fumbles and such that can sometimes happen, but the fact the Jets basically conceded short outs and slant passes in the middle and put 5-6 guys on the line to stop the run and keep TT from running. It's easy to beat such a scheme in theory, but while I'm big Tyrod supporter, these short outs and over the middle short-medium passes have been his weaknesses so will the Saints and other teams do the 5-6 men front till the Bills show they can beat it? Thankfully they had 10 days to adjust but still...

[Marv's Neighbor]

Since ALL Bills W's are impressive, I remain impressed.

[hondo in seattle]

It's been a fun first half of the season.

 

If we can go 5-3 for the second  half, I'll be thrilled.  

[HOUSE]

8 hours ago, teef said:

i'm at the point where anytime the bills win, i'm impressed.  

 

UB ?

[Marty McFly]

I dont see other teams handing in tneir wins jus cuz they had a bad game and neither should we.

 

What thurs loss showed me is we dont have the talent on roster to overcome a lack of preperation time. This means we are headed in tbe right direction we jus need a few more pieces to the puzzle of a solid playoff team. 

 

How mcderm responds this weekend is gonna tell us what we need to know.

 

Its not really how you fall that matters, its how you get up and keep moving.

[Alphadawg7]

You beat the team in front of each week.  3 of the teams we beat were undefeated at the time.  What happened to them after their loss to us isnt fair to weigh in on the game we played.  Teams get hurt, go into slumps, etc.  

 

We are 5-3 with 6 winnable games left on our schedule.  @KC and @NE I think are probably safe to say losses, but the other 6, including Saints and Pats in Buffalo are all winnable.  The more concerning data for me is our defense...one of the best through 5 weeks, but since its been a significant drop.  If our D cant start to tighten up again, games like NO, KC, and both NE ones look a lot scarier.  Hopefully having a healthy unit now in our secondary can help right the ship, but Brees, Smith, and Brady will have a field day if we cant find some QB pressure out our front 7.  

[Boatdrinks]

The shine is off many of those wins as their quality was based on preseason prognostications. While the opening day win vs the Jets might look more impressive now, the fact the Bills were blown out just a few days ago by the same team takes that down a notch. Fans now have a pretty good idea of what teams are good or just middling. The second half schedule and current record means the Bills will probably have to beat a couple teams with good records to seal a playoff berth in 2017. 

[DC Tom]

9 hours ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

At the time, the wins over Denver, Atlanta, Oakland, and Tampa Bay looked like signature wins.  But those teams are not living up to expectations this season - none is above .500 right now.

 

With 6 of our final 8 games against teams currently .500 or better are we about to get gut-punched back to reality?

 

I'm trying to trust the process and not compare to past Bills teams, but it's tough...

 

My feelings of such are always mitigated by the fact that, in beating those teams, the Bills contribute to their underperformance themselves.  

 

Same reason I chuckle at the "it's unfair" arguments about New England always getting a weak schedule.  When you play six games against the same three doormat teams every season that you beat like a rented mule, your winning record is part of the reason you have weaker opponents.

[Boatdrinks]

7 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

The Patriots only beat teams worse than them.

The Pats have a bit of a pedigree to back up their winning image,  as much as it pains me to say. 

[jimmy10]

Jesus, who cares? Wins are wins. 

[Scott7975]

No.  They are wins period.  I don't care what wins look like.  I only care about what the win/loss column looks like.  Right now that is 5-3.  I hope they win at least 5 more.  Don't care how they look doing that either.

Edited November 8, 2017 by Scott7975

[The Frankish Reich]

This is why we need to beat a good team that's playing well.  If we beat the Saints (6 wins in a row), I think we can say that really means something.

[Paul Costa]

9 hours ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

At the time, the wins over Denver, Atlanta, Oakland, and Tampa Bay looked like signature wins.  But those teams are not living up to expectations this season - none is above .500 right now.

 

With 6 of our final 8 games against teams currently .500 or better are we about to get gut-punched back to reality?

 

I'm trying to trust the process and not compare to past Bills teams, but it's tough...

You can look at a lot of teams that way. Take this week’s opponent New Orleans. Where are there quality wins? The Phins, Green Bay without Rodgers, the 4-4 Lions who beat a weak Green Bay team last night to get to .500. The list goes on a bad Chicago team or a Tampa team that’s 2-6. Hard to find a team with multiple quality wins. Bills will roll this week. Book It !!!!

[ricojes]

44 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

This is why we need to beat a good team that's playing well.  If we beat the Saints (6 wins in a row), I think we can say that really means something.

All of the Saints wins were against teams that are currently .500 or less.  So even if the Bills beat the Saints, some posters here will still not be impressed...

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

We should bring this thread back in April when next years schedule comes out and right away there will be a ten page long thread talking about how much tougher of a schedule we have for the upcoming season.  And will be tough to duplicate last seasons win total.

[WMDman]

nahhhh