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[boyst]

2 hours ago, JohnC said:

Who appointed you the moral police? He had a child with the woman he was involved with at the time. The relationship didn't work out. That isn't so unusual. He is involved in the life of the child and is a good father. So what is your point? 

No. It was from an affair with a chicken head looking out for some money. He's had several. 

[JohnC]

3 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

No. It was from an affair with a chicken head looking out for some money. He's had several. 

You are falsely characterizing the situation. He was involved with actress/model Bridget Moynahan. The relationship broke up. He is a good father and an involved father. So why be so judgmental on  someone's personal affairs? If you want to be so judgmental then why don't you join the Taliban where it is a cause they live for and kill for. His personal affairs are his business. So why care about? 

 

http://people.com/celebrity/gisele-bndchen-calls-tom-bradys-love-child-a-wake-up-call/

[boyst]

14 minutes ago, JohnC said:

You are falsely characterizing the situation. He was involved with actress/model Bridget Moynahan. The relationship broke up. He is a good father and an involved father. So why be so judgmental on  someone's personal affairs? If you want to be so judgmental then why don't you join the Taliban where it is a cause they live for and kill for. His personal affairs are his business. So why care about? 

 

http://people.com/celebrity/gisele-bndchen-calls-tom-bradys-love-child-a-wake-up-call/

You're talking about Brady. I am talking about Brees. 

[JohnC]

4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I’m not trying to twist your view. You want to address the position early. However when you look back you pick the best guys and then say we could have had them. If what you are saying is true you would have been just as happy if the Bills drafted Hackenberg in the 1st as if they would have taken Dak. They would have identified a guy that they thought could be a franchise guy and pulled the trigger. As long as you hold that position I’d agree. You can’t just say though, I want them to address the position once and for all (but only with guys that become good). 

I have never advocated for Hackenberg or against him. My position is to scout the prospects and then make a determination. Hackenberg set the world on fire in his freshman year. But as time went on it was apparent that he lacked the accuracy required for the pro-game. The scouts were right in their evaluation of him. There is nothing wrong with drafting a prospect with flaws. But you have to be reasonable where you select the prospect with apparent issues. Russell Wilson and even Dak Prescott wouldn't necessarily have been smart picks in the first round (though in hindsight that has proven to be wrong ) but both qbs would have been reasonable picks in the second and third round, respectively. 

 

I'm not portraying myself  as a draft expert. Although this board has a number of participants who I have a high regard for. What I can say is that this year there are a number of good candidates who should be seriously considered in the first round, even with a trade-up. Mayfield excites me. I don't give a dam about his height. There are others. This year there are going to be more teams interested in drafting qbs with a high pick. When your team hasn't had a legitimate franchise qb for almost a quarter century then why be so afraid to take a calculated risk? Dithering is not a solution---it is a problem!

2 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

You're talking about Brady. I am talking about Brees. 

You are right I was talking about Brady and not Brees. However, my response to you is the same: Mind your own freaking business! 

[boyst]

3 minutes ago, JohnC said:

I have never advocated for Hackenberg or against him. My position is to scout the prospects and then make a determination. Hackenberg set the world on fire in his freshman year. But as time went on it was apparent that he lacked the accuracy required for the pro-game. The scouts were right in their evaluation of him. There is nothing wrong with drafting a prospect with flaws. But you have to be reasonable where you select the prospect with apparent issues. Russell Wilson and even Dak Prescott wouldn't necessarily have been smart picks in the first round (though in hindsight that has proven to be wrong ) but both qbs would have been reasonable picks in the second and third round, respectively. 

 

I'm not portraying myself  as a draft expert. Although this board has a number of participants who I have a high regard for. What I can say is that this year there are a number of good candidates who should be seriously considered in the first round, even with a trade-up. Mayfield excites me. I don't give a dam about his height. There are others. This year there are going to be more teams interested in drafting qbs with a high pick. When your team hasn't had a legitimate franchise qb for almost a quarter century then why be so afraid to take a calculated risk? Dithering is not a solution---it is a problem!

You are right I was talking about Brady and not Brees. However, my response to you is the same: Mind your own freaking business! 

Well, I do. But when we are provided as a holier than though Saint (pun intended) we must recognize the truth. 

[JohnC]

Just now, Boyst62 said:

Well, I do. But when we are provided as a holier than though Saint (pun intended) we must recognize the truth. 

I heard that the Taliban are looking for zealots to join their moral police force. Being able to throw big stones is a requirement. 

[boyst]

Just now, JohnC said:

I heard that the Taliban are looking for zealots to join their moral police force. Being able to throw big stones is a requirement. 

Sign me up. These cajones I carry every day are just waiting to be thrown around!

[JohnC]

9 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

Sign me up. These cajones I carry every day are just waiting to be thrown around!

I always thought that farmers have wheelbarrows in their possession. They can be useful when carrying big loads. 

[Kirby Jackson]

39 minutes ago, JohnC said:

I have never advocated for Hackenberg or against him. My position is to scout the prospects and then make a determination. Hackenberg set the world on fire in his freshman year. But as time went on it was apparent that he lacked the accuracy required for the pro-game. The scouts were right in their evaluation of him. There is nothing wrong with drafting a prospect with flaws. But you have to be reasonable where you select the prospect with apparent issues. Russell Wilson and even Dak Prescott wouldn't necessarily have been smart picks in the first round (though in hindsight that has proven to be wrong ) but both qbs would have been reasonable picks in the second and third round, respectively. 

 

I'm not portraying myself  as a draft expert. Although this board has a number of participants who I have a high regard for. What I can say is that this year there are a number of good candidates who should be seriously considered in the first round, even with a trade-up. Mayfield excites me. I don't give a dam about his height. There are others. This year there are going to be more teams interested in drafting qbs with a high pick. When your team hasn't had a legitimate franchise qb for almost a quarter century then why be so afraid to take a calculated risk? Dithering is not a solution---it is a problem!

You are right I was talking about Brady and not Brees. However, my response to you is the same: Mind your own freaking business! 

I like Mayfied too and could care less about his height. He has that confidence that I love. I hated Hackenberg coming out too. My point is that those banging the table for swinging on a QB early should be satisfied after the draft whether it is EJ or Russell Wilson. We all hope that they take the right guy. I wanted a trade down and a 2018 first last year. I got exactly what I wanted. Even if Tre White turned out to be a terrible football player and the pick in 2018 was another bad player I couldn’t complain. That was what I believed to be the best course of action. 

[NewEra]

Didn’t want to make a new thread about this, so I figure I’d post here.  Does anyone know if Lattimore is playing a side or has he been shadowing? Saints play man?

[Kelly the Dog]

Just now, NewEra said:

Didn’t want to make a new thread about this, so I figure I’d post here.  Does anyone know if Lattimore is playing a side or has he been shadowing? Saints play man?

I asked that earlier in the week and the response was that he shadows. Not sure though.

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said:

I asked that earlier in the week and the response was that he shadows. Not sure though.

Copy that.  As much as I’d like to know for watching the game on Sunday, I️ also have Benjamin in a fantasy league.  Gotta decide between Benjamin, Adrian Peterson (vs seattle) and Sammy (vs Houston) Anyone have thoughts?

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Copy that.  As much as I’d like to know for watching the game on Sunday, I️ also have Benjamin in a fantasy league.  Gotta decide between Benjamin, Adrian Peterson (vs seattle) and Sammy (vs Houston) Anyone have thoughts?

Houston has given up a lot of points in the air but it’s tough to trust Sammy. Benjamin will probably see some of Lattimore (I’d check to see if he covered him earlier this year). Peterson has a tough matchup but got almost 40 carries. I’d probably roll with him (especially in non ppr). The disclaimer is that I am 7-11(not Chris Hogan) in fantasy this year so I’m probably the wrong guy for advice.

[NewEra]

23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Houston has given up a lot of points in the air but it’s tough to trust Sammy. Benjamin will probably see some of Lattimore (I’d check to see if he covered him earlier this year). Peterson has a tough matchup but got almost 40 carries. I’d probably roll with him (especially in non ppr). The disclaimer is that I am 7-11(not Chris Hogan) in fantasy this year so I’m probably the wrong guy for advice.

Thanks for the feedback. It’s PPR,  but I’m leaning Peterson due to touches.  Hoping the home crowd can help the Arizona D shut down Wilson and Co and keep AP relevant.  I️ don’t see Arizona scoring more than 10. 

 

Tell me why I’m starting AP again?  Lol.  Almost feel sammy is the best play just due to the offense putting up so many points .

[Paul Costa]

Lattimore will be exposed this week!!! Book it!! Saints D going to get a beating on Sunday!! Bills score 34+ points ?????

[Roboturner913]

What up, gentlemen, Saints fan here. I was sitting around reading all the Bills/Saints stuff I could find and remembered I had signed up for this big nice Bills board a few years ago. Couldn't find/access that one, I guess it got shut down. But this one seems pretty cool.

 

I can't too much argue with those who'll say we haven't played many good teams during this 6 win streak. The Panthers and Lions are both pretty decent though, and we blew both of those teams out. I will say it's more about HOW they're winning games, by running the ball, playing shutdown defense and just generally controlling the line of scrimmage. Like, Drew is only on pace for like 4500 yards whereas he's usually in the area of 5000-5200....he's still about as good as he has ever been (105 passer rating) but it's no longer just throw the ball 50 times and hope to win, now we have a team that could win with a QB like Sam Bradford or Alex Smith or somebody like that.

 

Lattimore is the real deal for sure. I find myself feeling giddy about him. Talk about lucky having him fall in our laps. The defensive turnaround is not just all about him though. They've been drafting well the last few years and got a couple solid free agents and suddenly it all just kinda came together. They got torched the first two games but have been lockdown since week 3 - I believe ranked #1, #2 or #3 in every major defensive category over the 6 game win streak.

 

Other than Drew, Zach Strief and a couple other guys, it's a really, really young team, even a lot of the so-called "veterans" are guys that have only been around 3-4 years. SP/Loomis/Ireland pretty much tore apart the roster after the disaster that was 2014, so they've rebuilt the team in just a couple years and done a good job.

 

I think this will be a good test for them, going into what is likely to be difficult weather conditions. Obviously defense and a running game are key ingredients for winning games like that on the road, so I feel much better about our chances going into this game than I would've at any point since 2013. I figure it will probably be a relatively low-scoring game, 20-17 or something like that. No predictions, I'll just say I wouldn't be surprised either way.

 

12 hours ago, NewEra said:

Didn’t want to make a new thread about this, so I figure I’d post here.  Does anyone know if Lattimore is playing a side or has he been shadowing? Saints play man?

 

He started off playing the right side exclusively but has started shadowing the other team's best WR the last 3-4 games. He totally shut down Mike Evans last week playing him pretty much exclusively in man coverage. When they play zone you'll see him on the right side of the defense. They play both man and zone pretty much equally. I think they'll probably play quite a bit more zone this week against the Bills because of Tyrod's running ability. The only thing Lattimore really doesn't do much of is covering the slot WR. He's capable of doing that but since Vaccaro is the nickel CB and excels playing the slot there's been no real reason to put him there.

Edited November 10, 2017 by Roboturner913

[Roboturner913]

On 11/8/2017 at 9:40 PM, Boyst62 said:

Did you know he has a child with another woman that's not his wife? Yeah nobody really talks about that but it's true

 

Never heard anything about this. Drew has been with his wife since he was like a freshman or sophomore in college. I can't find any documentation or even a rumor about any other kids.

 

Of course I wouldn't be surprised if it was true, these guys have all kinds of money and are away from home a lot so I would never be shocked that even a presumably squeaky-clean guy like Drew would have strayed a time or two. But you can't just toss around allegations like that without presenting some sort of proof/link to back it up, even if it's just hearsay. I mean, that's not cool. There's not even rumors to back it up.

[Kirby Jackson]

3 minutes ago, Roboturner913 said:

 

Never heard anything about this. Drew has been with his wife since he was like a freshman or sophomore in college. I can't find any documentation or even a rumor about any other kids.

 

Of course I wouldn't be surprised if it was true, these guys have all kinds of money and are away from home a lot so I would never be shocked that even a presumably squeaky-clean guy like Drew would have strayed a time or two. But you can't just toss around allegations like that without presenting some sort of proof/link to back it up, even if it's just hearsay. I mean, that's not cool. There's not even rumors to back it up.

You aren’t going to find a lot on it and you can believe it or not but it’s the truth.

[GunnerBill]

I don't care how many kids Drew Brees has by how many women.  It changes my opinion of him as a man not one iota.  He is a classy guy.  He is also my favourite non-Bill NFL player of the past 15 years.  

[Roboturner913]

Hate to think we live in a world where one can just accuse a person of something on a message board without even the slightest hint of proof or even a rumor and people just take it at face value as truth.

 

Like with Peyton Manning, there had been rumors on him for years and years. It's easy to find convos and details of his dalliance with a Google search or whatever. Can't find even a single thing about Brees, and New Orleans is a place where everybody knows everybody's business. Pretty sure if he really did have a kid with another woman we would've at least heard a rumor about it at some point this over the last 11 or 12 years.

 

I don't care, I mean I don't have a moral hang up about that sort of thing. Just strikes me as pretty unfair to say something on the Internet like that unless you have at least something to back it up with.