John from Riverside Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 No he is not. 7 sacks because hes too gunshy to pull the trigger at the end of his dropback. At the end of his drop back he had someone in his face last night.....a lot
grb Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Wow. Is not obvious to you Throw the ball away. What percent of sacks league-wide would that apply to? Ninety percent? Ninety-five percent? Are all those other quarterbacks at fault, or is this just a Taylor-thing? Edited November 3, 2017 by grb
GoBills808 Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Can’t argue that (hard to believe we are an “old” team!), but that’s why we need to hit on a lot of those draft picks. I’ve heard little about the scouting staff changes other than Whaley is gone. I know it’s out there...somewhere. That’s critical to our future. Well, having all those high picks can't hurt. Sidenote, this is the first season I haven't talked next year's draft until after week 8 in quite a while. Yep, we need to find guys to fill in behind them this offseason. The Bills need a pass rusher and a DT IMO. They need starting caliber skill sets too. They also need a RB to take the carries behind Shady with the possibility of being a starter. My guess is that they sign Star Lotulelei, use a 1st on a pass rushing prospect and take a RB in the 3rd. Total guess but think that they will look to address those areas. Wouldn't be surprised to see LB up there either.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Could you put all of us on your ignore list please?The simplest solution Kelly is for you to put xRushx on ignore.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Maybe TWO at DT? Dareus is gone and Kyles getting old, so that could be two starters down. Hopefully we can get lucky on a cheap later round RB.They may need 2. I think some of the rotational guys are rotational talents. They need two starters though. I guess that I am banking on either Kyle sticking around or someone stepping up into that role next to Lotulelei. Well, having all those high picks can't hurt. Sidenote, this is the first season I haven't talked next year's draft until after week 8 in quite a while. Wouldn't be surprised to see LB up there either. Yeah, they need at least one. I like what Ive seen from Milano. Humber isnt useless but think hes a FA. Brown is what he is. He would be a great 4th LB. They need more athleticism at LB. I would expect a FA signing or one of the first 5 picks on a LB.
HappyDays Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Yeah. #1 offense in the league, threw for 35 TDs and rushed for 10 more. That's without Benjamin who went down with an ACL in preseason. Panthers led the turnover differential that year (also led in takeaways). According to you that isnt sustainable and is flukey. So maybe they just made it in a flukey season that they have never come close to replicating? Where does that leave Cam?
mjt328 Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 The way I see it, if a quarterback reaches the full depth of his dropback and can immediately step into a throw, the O-Line has given him enough time. It's not about "how many seconds" he actually has. Because plays are designed around predetermined routes and a certain number of steps on a dropback. What is necessary for a 2-step drop and quick slant, is much different than a 4-5 step drop and timing route 15 yards downfield. And blocking assignments usually reflect this as well. The vast majority of pressure last night WAS NOT the fault of our quarterback.
grb Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 That fumble is on him IMO. He didn't hear the footsteps; he didn't secure the ball. Definitely on him. It's pretty astounding how rarely it happens.....
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 The simplest solution Kelly is for you to put xRushx on ignore. ...why would you deny yourself the humor?.....not to mention it's free...he was a major (COUGH) contributor at BBMB.....same fertilizer......
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 At the end of his drop back he had someone in his face last night.....a lot John what have we both stated about TT? Progression and consistency. Other than Zay Jones I saw typical Tyrod Taylor Sorry man. Its not about the loss, i can deal with them its the way it happened. BBFS.
Doc Brown Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Tyrod has guts. He is by far, not the greatest, by any means... However, he's a black QB, and that is a problem with some people.... Let's put you under center,and and see how you fare... Yes. I remember all those Philly fans that were calling for McNabb and Vick's head when they lead them to the playoffs. Give me a break. Taylor is the best option we have now but he is NOT a franchise quarterback. He can get you to a wild card game with a great team surrounding him. That's it. Edited November 3, 2017 by Doc Brown
GoBills808 Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Panthers led the turnover differential that year (also led in takeaways). According to you that isnt sustainable and is flukey. So maybe they just made it in a flukey season that they have never come close to replicating? Where does that leave Cam? So because turnovers are predominantly a function of luck (and they are), that somehow means Newton wasn't great that season? OK then.
JM2009 Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 John what have we both stated about TT? Progression and consistency. Other than Zay Jones I saw typical Tyrod Taylor Sorry man. Its not about the loss, i can deal with them its the way it happened. BBFS. yeah, both lines got dominated. TT wasn't the problem.
Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 He didn't hear the footsteps; he didn't secure the ball. Definitely on him. It's pretty astounding how rarely it happens..... Yep, he was trying to make a play and turned it over. It happens (and thankfully not very often to him).
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Just as consistent as the Bills are to being average or below... ...so to is the never ending battle of supporter vs. skeptics over the Bills average Place Holding QB. You know that old statement if you have to think about it the player shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. Well... If you have to argue so much about a quarterback there's probably some real issues and if you're arguing as much he's probably not the franchise quarterback.
JM2009 Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Tyrod can't carry a team Not many QBs could have played well behind that line last night. Is he responsible for the fumbles too?
John from Riverside Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 John what have we both stated about TT? Progression and consistency. Other than Zay Jones I saw typical Tyrod Taylor Sorry man. Its not about the loss, i can deal with them its the way it happened. BBFS. I have also preached consistancy this season....I still do BUT When every other aspect of the team is failing around Tyrod.....and he is still completing passes with his own OL getting shoved into him every play.......players committing stupid penalties.....the defense falling apart....his recievers fumbling the ball....... its a little hard to blame it on him....
HappyDays Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 So because turnovers are predominantly a function of luck (and they are), that somehow means Newton wasn't great that season? OK then. You said Cam led them to a Super Bowl, I was disputing that he alone was responsible for that great season. You said Cam led them to a Super Bowl, I was disputing that he alone was responsible for that great season. Specifically you said Cam carried them which is demonstrably false when you look at the defensive stats. If you want to say he carried the offense Im 100% with you there.
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