Roundybout Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I don't care what anyone says, the jets are outright tanking and are still flat out a better team all the way around, better D, better O and better qb. 17 years of flat out fail. Anyone who didn't see this bubble being bursted in an atrocious way is blind. See you at 5-6 for the heroic "they are good" 7-9 finish. Being a bills fan is what i imagine an abused dog must feel lying there waiting to get get kicked, cringing, knowing its coming. 7 miserable points, its mind boggling. I don't think the Jets have a better offense then us. I think they had a lot of stuff gift wrapped by our weird fumbles/penalties. Our boys were getting held all day as well. Their defense last night was obviously better than ours; we aren't able to deal with these overload blitzes that Toilet Bowles gives every single play. Other QBs can deal with getting the ball out so fast, TT can't do it so well, and he had nowhere to escape. Also we scored 21 last night. Also its one game. Also we are 5-3. Also, Jets are shooting themselves in the foot, they're gonna screw up their draft picks and remain with 39 year old McCown, Hackeysack and Bryce Petty (who I think is an illusion, and doesn't exist.)
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I might take some time off from this board until the saints game.... Were people expecting us to go 14-2? We got hit in the mouth and lost, tough breaks and didn't execute well enough. This is still a decent team, please chill out. Love these kinda posts. If you're gonna leave, leave. Don't announce it.
Like A Mofo Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 How about we step off the ledge and focus on ONE game at a time. New Orleans next.
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I wonder what Savior Peterman has to say about all of this
dave mcbride Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 How about we step off the ledge and focus on ONE game at a time. New Orleans next. The Bills against the Saints during the drought: 0-4. Scores: 24-6, 19-7, 27-7, and 35-17.
Koko78 Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 How about we step off the ledge and focus on ONE game at a time. New Orleans next. What is this crap? We are supposed to act like irrational children and scream helplessly at the sky about the team sucking and that Pegula should cut/fire everyone, etc. after a Bills loss.
BADOLBILZ Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 This guy gets it. right back to the 8-8 herpes. Shoulda tanked when you had the chance. Hours earlier you were talking about not being this happy with the team since the 1990's. They are going to continue lose some games because of the talent they gave away.........all 3 losses were on the lack of individual talent at WR and also DT yesterday, IMO. Not having Dareus in the middle hurt last night..........as did not having a guy on the outside at WR who can make plays.........Jets accurately game planned to those two weaknesses. But the trade-off is that they think they are going to win some games because of more of a team concept............that's more subjective than having matchup weaknesses exploited IMO.........but that's their rationale.
Sweats Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 They had the chance to profile themselves on the national stage last night. This game was the make or break, to prove to the rest of the league and themselves that they are legit............pretenders, i say.
BADOLBILZ Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 The Bills against the Saints during the drought: 0-4. Scores: 24-6, 19-7, 27-7, and 35-17. The Same ol' Bills would see the defensive struggles snowball against the Saints........a game like the Pitt game last year.......... as the Same Ol' Bills go into their Same Ol' mid-season swoon that costs them a playoff spot. Interested to see what answers McDermott and staff have for the issues........some of the problems can be corrected. Weakness in the middle of defense and lack of big play ability at WR, not so much.
John from Riverside Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 They had the chance to profile themselves on the national stage last night. This game was the make or break, to prove to the rest of the league and themselves that they are legit............pretenders, i say. I honestly could care less about this.....I want to see them make the playoffs. That shoudl be the real goal...not that they laid a egg on prime time
dave mcbride Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) The Same ol' Bills would see the defensive struggles snowball against the Saints........a game like the Pitt game last year.......... as the Same Ol' Bills go into their Same Ol' mid-season swoon that costs them a playoff spot. Interested to see what answers McDermott and staff have for the issues........some of the problems can be corrected. Weakness in the middle of defense and lack of big play ability at WR, not so much. Yup, although I do think that the way this team is currently built, they're going to outperform their talent level when playing at home. The rah-rah stuff actually does seem to be an asset in Orchard Park. On the road, though, it's useless, and can't cover up the talent deficit. Let's not forget that they were gifted a defensive TD on an absolutely terrible call in Atlanta. Edited November 3, 2017 by dave mcbride
Sweats Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I honestly could care less about this.....I want to see them make the playoffs. That shoudl be the real goal...not that they laid a egg on prime time Not just a stinker on the national stage, but against a beatable divisional opponent...........we ain't going anywhere if we can't compete for the division.
BillsfanAZ Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Hours earlier you were talking about not being this happy with the team since the 1990's. They are going to continue lose some games because of the talent they gave away.........all 3 losses were on the lack of individual talent at WR and also DT yesterday, IMO. Not having Dareus in the middle hurt last night..........as did not having a guy on the outside at WR who can make plays.........Jets accurately game planned to those two weaknesses. But the trade-off is that they think they are going to win some games because of more of a team concept............that's more subjective than having matchup weaknesses exploited IMO.........but that's their rationale. I am so tired of people pointing to Dareus not being there. So every win the Bills have Dareus isnt missed and then when the Bills lose, Dareus is missed. The Bills were down by 3 after halftime and went three and out to start the second half. If the Bills put up points, it changes the game. Three and outs kill the Bills and their defense.....with or without Dareus
dave mcbride Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I am so tired of people pointing to Dareus not being there. So every win the Bills have Dareus isnt missed and then when the Bills lose, Dareus is missed. The Bills were down by 3 after halftime and went three and out to start the second half. If the Bills put up points, it changes the game. Three and outs kill the Bills and their defense.....with or without Dareus they were down by 3 at halftime because of a pretty inexcusable fumble by Matthews. It should have been 10-10.
Willyville Guy Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 This guy gets it. I'd get in a foxhole with the OP any day. I watched the game closely, and I watched jailbreak after jailbreak, with no one on the Bills line capable of handling superior talents like Leonard Williams or Mo Wilkerson. Hence the pocket collapsed almost instantaneously on far too many occasions. There is nothing a QB can do about that if a play design is to push the ball down the field. And just look at the first play of the game - that was an instance of the Bills being completely outschemed. It destroyed a possession. That's what I saw, too. Not mad at Tyrod at all today.
BADOLBILZ Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 I am so tired of people pointing to Dareus not being there. So every win the Bills have Dareus isnt missed and then when the Bills lose, Dareus is missed. The Bills were down by 3 after halftime and went three and out to start the second half. If the Bills put up points, it changes the game. Three and outs kill the Bills and their defense.....with or without Dareus Like it or not Dareus was at worst a rock in the middle........see the All-22's where he single handedly prevented the kind of plays that turned into big runs last night.......... and that presence discouraged teams from even game planning to run the ball there. The Jets clearly had no concerns at all about the Bills interior DL.......their gameplan was built around taking advantage of that weakness. This defense only works if teams feel they have to pass the ball.........it's about forcing teams to throw and then coming up and creating turnovers. Yup, although I do think that the way this team is currently built, they're going to outperform their talent level when playing at home. The rah-rah stuff actually does seem to be an asset in Orchard Park. On the road, though, it's useless, and can't cover up the talent deficit. Let's not forget that they were gifted a defensive TD on an absolutely terrible call in Atlanta. Yeah they should be able to play a different level of defense at home.........if they don't lose their focus/confidence........which was a big part of defensive implosions in past seasons. But the road games will be tough. Offense needs to take it to another level to stop teams from running it down their throat on the road. And to get there they need their weapons back(Benjamin and Clay) and Dennison needs to let Tyrod audible out of bad plays..........he's tremendous at getting back huge chunks of yards after sacks or big TFL's against Shady...........he nearly converted a 2nd and 24 and a 2nd and 19 back-to-back late in the first half.........but they gotta' stop giving away so many downs with rigid play calls that can't work against certain looks. they were down by 3 at halftime because of a pretty inexcusable fumble by Matthews. It should have been 10-10. Matthews also had a drop to kill a drive. Not a good game for JMatt. A lot of what we saw out there was uncharacteristic and probably the result of not enough turnaround time but the mystery of this team is over............teams have tape..........they know Dareus is gone and that the WR on the outside aren't worthy of attention. Jets personnel is a tough matchup in that situation but if the Bills could have answered with scores before the half and right after the half.........the game might have turned out the exact opposite. Play calling on first drive of second half was clueless and the coaches clearly didn't have the pulse of a tired team. The Jets have shown themselves to lack mental toughness late in games. Lotta' prancing front-runners on that team.........they'd quit if you gave them an excuse to.
BADOLBILZ Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Take on Dennison last night? I don't mind Dennison but that first drive of second half was totally out of touch with their team's reality. The team was tired and making mistakes..........you need to score and re-energize the troops..........not to worry about re-establishing the run there .......the run game wasn't going to come back UNLESS you started hitting big plays in the pass game.
mabden Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Once again we have to realize the season is now over and everyone needs to stop going to and watching this damn team. I am about to lay out the rest of their schedule, which most of the teams are way better than the Jets. They will lose both against New England that is a given. They will lose against the Saints, Chiefs and Miami once because of Tyrod "three and out" Taylor They will beat Indy They will beat the Chargers They will be at best another useless 8 and 8 Buffalo Team. Please sell this team to LA or somewhere they can win because the fans are done with your 18 years of not making the playoffs. Thanks for letting me post this fourms I guess the Bills should just pack it in for the year, since you have it all figured out.
Nihilarian Posted November 3, 2017 Posted November 3, 2017 Food for thought. One year the NY Giants went up to Seattle and were beaten down by the Seahawks 17 to 12. They intercepted Phill Simms 4 times as he went 14 of 25 for 190 yards and they sacked him 7 times! That year was 1986 and the Giants went on to win the super bowl. Just saying that one game out of 16 doesn't mean the world will end because of a loss no matter how bad it looks. What matters now is that the Bills offensive coaches get their heads out of their posteriors and work up a game plan to keep that game from happening again. Because more than likely every team the Bills face from here on out will try to do the very same things the Jets did on Thursday night. Also, let's hope that the GM saw what we all saw and drafts some top offensive linemen in the next draft.
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